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It was getting slower in the last few weeks.
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With the PD rigging scandal, it is unlikely that IZOne and X1 will promote extensively in Korea again. At most they will mostly concentrate on foreign activities, and make a comeback in Korea once a blue moon. Meanwhile, the return of KPop's Least Useful Singer was once again received well by the K-O-R-E-A-N-S, despite of her song even more experimental and arcane than before. The Uaenas will accept whatever she will release, even if she does death metal. At the same time, people over 50 flocked to the concert of trot singer Song Gain, whose style of trot is very, very old style (she had trained in traditional korean chants) unlike the style of Jang Yunjung (trained as a balladist) and Hong Jinyoung (considered as a member of Kara and After School, and was a member of a very short lived girl group) which is at least barely acceptable to non-Koreans. No amount of KPop successes will convince the general Korean public to like KPop, and the proliferation of people like IU, Song Gain, Bol4 and the gaggle of balladists who continue to plague the Melon charts , combined with the end of Korean prospects for the Produce groups, will probably accelerate the separation of Kpop from Korea in the 2020s. Soccer was invented in England, but it became more popular in South America. While England still emphasizes soccer, cricket and rugby also have important spots in there (and other Commonwealth countries). I think KPop will take the same route. It will be somewhat popular in Korea, but traditional trot and k-ballad becoming stronger as the pop grows older. A change which frees KPop from the restrictions imposed by Koreans, and made IU to be held in the same regard with SNSD, Exo and BTS.
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It was basically formed by people from OH who were tired of waiting for the site to come back on. I wrote about KPop's Least Useful Singer in both sites so I am ambivalent.
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Gallup 5-Year Survey for Korea's Favorite Artists!
Yknocker replied to AquaBlue's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
None. I mostly stay at H+ and come here occasionally. -
Lee Jieun trying to mimic Park Hyoshin. Quite a weak song.
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She belongs to a generation she was not even born into. She would have placed perfect in the late 1980s and early 1990s, whose music she is desperately trying to restore.
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According to MNet, yes. She was given the Lifetime Achievement Award at the ripe age of .... 21.
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Kpop, in general, has become much more stultified and stagnant over the last 10 years. It is a miracle that BTS rose to the top of KPop and Korean Pop in general, given that 8 of the top 10 singers the Koreans liked on 2014 are still at the same top 10. They are not getting any younger, and as the pop is growing older, the older singers not getting any younger. They are, according to the 2014 order, like this. ( I do not check the birthdays of the singers, which will probably be unreliable anyways.) [Singers who were born before 1960 are usually actually older by some years, so keep that in mind.) Cho Yongpil , born 1950, 69 years old (1 on 2014, 5 on 2019) Lee Sunhee, born 1964, 55 years old (2, 6) Jang Yoonjung, born 1980, 39 years old (3, 2) - at least this one will probably be replaced by Song Gain (born 1985) Lee Jieun, born 1993, 26 years old (4, 4) Tae Jinah, born 1953, 66 years old (5, 7) Lee Seungchul, born 1966, 53 years old (7, 9) Lee Mija, born 1941, 78 years old (7, 8 ) Na Hoonah, supposedly born 1950, supposedly 69 years old (9, 3 ) All of them aged by 5 years from 2014. BTs broke through all these senior singers who are preventing newer singers from growing up. Exo and SNSD were in top back in 2014, but only BTS is in the top 10 in 2019, which is actually a retrenchment. In Korean, there is a word called Cheung-chueng Shiha, which means "Floors and Floors of In-laws". A woman gets married into a family, and not only there is a mother in law, there is a grandmother-in-law and sometimes even a great-grandmother in law. The woman has to serve all of their needs and usually trouble ensues. BTS has to serve 8 Senior Singers, one actually younger than Jin (Kim Seokjin, born 1992) and Suga (Min Yoongi, born March 1993 , 2 months older than the Senior Singer). Filial Duty is still important in Korea, and senior singers expect to be respected by younger singers. Some of the Senior Singers are getting older, although three of them, Cho Yongpil, Na Hoonah and Lee Jieun still do active concerts despite of their advanced ages. Will BTS outlast them? It is a question worth asking, since especially the youngest Senior Singer has ambitions to perform at the Chamshil Main Olympic Stadium where Cho Yongpil and BTS had performed before.
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Gallup 5-Year Survey for Korea's Favorite Artists!
Yknocker replied to AquaBlue's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Most of the people in the polls are trot or old balladists, and are older. IU appears to be younger but she had received a Lifetime Achievement Award so she should be considered as an older singer as well. -
[NB] Bang Shi Hyuk attends BTS concert with security
Yknocker replied to My Everything's topic in Netizen Nation
With all these money, he can wear anything he feels like. Being very wealthy gives someone a freedom to wear, drive or look as what one feels like. -
concept IU - <Love poem> Teaser + Lyrics Image
Yknocker replied to neozone's topic in Celebrity Photos & Videos
Looks like another autumn ballad for Kpop's most reactionary, most isolationist and most anachronistic singer. -
The favorite Kpop artists according Korea Tourism Organization
Yknocker replied to Usagi.'s topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Even more amazing, considering that Lee Jieun is KPop's most reactionary, isolationist and stuck-in-the-old-ways singer. -
The favorite Kpop artists according Korea Tourism Organization
Yknocker replied to Usagi.'s topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
What is KPop's most uber reactionary singer doing here? -
What happens is, 60k is the max, but usually the concert organizers do not use part of the stadium because of the staging. Still I was not aware that only 35k was used for Exo (35k * 2 = 70k). BigBang did have a concert at the Sang'am Soccer Stadium (Cap about 60k), similar to Chamshil, so they are in the same league.
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The Chamshil Olympic Stadium, where the Seoul Olympic of 1988 was conducted, is South Korea's biggest stadium and venue. There is one much bigger venue just about 150 miles north of it, the 150,000 capacity Nungrado Stadium at Pyongyang, but it is off limits as of now. The Chamshil (sometimes spelled as Jamsil, but I prefer the older spelling) has a capacity of 69,900, but it is never fully used for concert purposes. For concerts, the capacity is about 60,000, give or take a thousand. Out of currently active acts, only Exo (2017) and BTS (2018 and 2019) did concerts there. It is not cheap to rent the Chamshil, so usually 2 day events are held (120,000). This year BTS will do a 3 day concert there (180,000). However, yknocker is concerned that acts which can do another concert at the Chamshil are nowhere to be seen as of now. After HOT, Shinhwa and god, the first act which did a concert at the Chamshil was JYJ (2010), and it is said the concert was a disaster. (TVXQ, or the two men DBSK, never had a concert at the Chamshil; the biggest they did was at the Gymnastics Arena(15,000 cap), the Gochuck(19,000 cap) not built back then.) I put a lot of names in the poll above, but only X1 had a chance which has diminished because of the rigging controversy. Big Hit's txt is likely to go the Shinee route - good music and lots of hardcore fans, but not exactly mainstream (and Shinee also never graduated from the Gymnastics). The only singer who might do a concert at the Chanshil which is on my radar is, surprisingly, a singer who was not well known to have a lot of fans outside of Korea, a singer who contributed very little to the spread of pop across the world and a singer who is very unlikely to write a song palatable for foreigners. When Lee Jieun released the tickets for her upcoming concert at the Gymnastics (14,500 seats - usually a section of the venue is covered but this year the Loen singer will do a concert at a 360 degree stage so more people could see KPop's Least Useful Singer) , about 26,000 of them were bought by her fan club, whose only perk is the ability to buy her concert ticket before the general public. So, the 3,000 remaining tickets were released to the general public, and the waiting list was - 120,000 plus. So, about 150,000 people were signing up and willing to pay $120(minimum) to see Kpop's Greatest Anachronism. So, instead of an up-and-coming hotshot having a concert at Korea's biggest venue, it is likely that in a few years someone who debuted on 2008 and did not become useful to Kpop until 2018 will have a concert at the Chamshil, before all the newer acts of today. Yknocker doesn't know whether to laugh or to cry.
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I didn't expect her concert in Singapore to sell out quickly Lee Jieun adding one more day in her concert there https://www.hellokpop.com/event/iu-love-poem-singapore-concert-sold-out-adds-show/
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BLACKPINK Tokyo Dome Concert SOLD OUT!
Yknocker replied to aespa Monster Rookies's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I see. So just a point of marketing. Still I can't stay still at night when I think about all these great groups being outsold in Korea by a certain uber-reactionary singer. -
BLACKPINK Tokyo Dome Concert SOLD OUT!
Yknocker replied to aespa Monster Rookies's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I can't understand Koreans. Why these groups can sell out huge places out of Korea, but in Korea they are outsold by KPop's most reactionary singer? -
IZ*ONE's original lineup? (Most likely fake.)
Yknocker replied to Chang Yuanying's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Which is why they will probably stay in Japan for the rest of their run. -
HOT is there. They did fill it on last year two. TVXQ, no. I confirmed that their pre-breakup korean concerts were at the gymnastics. SNSD had 3 days at gymnastics. At that time it held 9,000 so 27,000. Twice had less audience than Lee Jieun. Shinee, I don't think SM gave it the chance. They also did not graduate from Gymnastics.
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Which is what I have been saying for years. After the departure of Exo's Chinese members, KPop's initiative had passed to IU. Without BTS, IU would be still dominating KPop. New acts are coming short, and the Produce series just suck all the talent and consume them. Plus, Korea's birth rate is declining, necessitating foreign members in new groups. Chamshil is the old spelling. I prefer it to the new spelling.
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It is not cheap to rent the Chamshil Stadium, and it also costs some penny to prepare it for concerts. It was built in the 1980s. In the older days, people had lower expectations so the older singers could get away with minimal preparation. But, nowdays concertgoers have higher expectation, since they can easily watch their faves in streaming videos so the singers do have to prepare something which can only be experienced in the concert venues. The Gochuck and the Chamshil Stadium do not exactly have the best sound systems, since when they were built they didn't think too much about Kpop. There are talks of building something which will be more suited for Kpop, but who knows when, or whether, they would be built. At the beginning Lee Jieun preferred to do smaller concerts in many locations, but she has grown too big to do that and because she does dramas during most of the year she can't really do too many concerts in smaller venues now, which is why her fans are begging her to move higher. Given the ambition of Lee Jieun, it is likely that she will test the waters at the Gochuck next year, and maybe on 2021, before attacking the Chamshil on 2022.