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As Koreans get older, trottists and senior singers will run around like they are 20.
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It means no newer faces, and lesser people to carry the Kpop tradition
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When yknocker saw the idol poll for this year, yknocker had to despair again. Not only a senior singer, who is technically everyone's grandmother because she had received the Lifetime Achievement Award, is at #2, the idols (most of them coming from BTS, Twice and Red Velvet) are all over 21. I think the youngest is Jungkook, who is now 22. Not one single 1998er or 1999er. (In earlier years, Kim Dahyun, 1998, and Chou Tzuyu, 1999, were there but not this year). And the tragedy is that this trend is unlikely to change next year. In other words, most of the people who were here are likely to stay next year with only a couple changes, which means the idols will probably get older by one year with no younger faces. Without the Produce fiasco, Jang Wounyoung would probably have made it, because.... Ennik Douma had made it on 2016 at the 15th, when she was 15. She is the only person born in the 21st century to have made the idol ranking ; after 3 years, no one born after 2000 has made it, despite of all these new group launches! As KPop grows older, Kpop's youngest senior singer, who is technially a grandma to the acts just debuting because she is 2nd generation and the newer acts are of the 4th generation, can't stop laughing because her fellow idols are not getting younger but are growing older with herself.
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The Trottists made a huge resurgence this year. Thanks to Miss Trot, Song Gain threatened BTS, and 3 out of the top 5 were Trottists. (And, 1 of the remaining 2 is a Senior Singer who is 27 in 2020 but is like a grandmother for all new Kpop singers.) And, more importantly, other than BTS's songs and a song from Hotel del Luna (a drama the Senior Singer starred in), all of the rest were trot songs. As Korea's pop gets older, their voices will be stronger, and trot, which always appealed to older pop, will make a return if BTS begins to decline. Other than BTS, there is only a Senior Singer remaining to contain the trottists, but it is not well known that she also sang a trot song with the late leader of Ulala Session (which was released a while after he died).
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A certain senior singer still lurking at #2 to challenge the throne when she finds an opportunity.
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Usually KBS invites the fewest and MBC always the most people. This year, since no YG acts are available because of all the mess about the company, SBS has invited the fewest people. The lineup has to vary slightly ; otherwise nobody will watch the same people for 3 times.
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Stephanie Hwang, who now prefers to be called Tiffany Young, used to be a SNSD member and she rose quite high. She represented SNSD and the entire KPop in the first Youtbe Award Although she is American, the people there treat her as Korean. Apparently outraged, she does utter several words of Korean. That was the height of Kpop to the moment, and in my opinion SNSD's last hurrah. On the next year, Jessica left, SM got into a host of problems from which it still has not fully recovered, and KPop stalled because of the ferry accident. On the Gallup polls, SNSD was finally defeated by its long time nemesis IU. ==== Fast forward 6 years, here is what Tiffany Young is doing, at the age of 30. The Bluebird theater at Denver, Colorado has a capacity of 550. It does appear that she does have some money she has made from her SNSD career, but now she has a staff of 15 people traveling with her which not cheap. And, unlike SNSD's chief rival IU, who pays Korean wages to her staff(which is not too much, although she does help her staff when she feels like it), Tiffany Young has to pay American wages to her staff. It might not be as extreme as Napoleon from being the Master Europe to a prison in the attic of the governor of St Helena, which is 1,500 miles away from any significant landmass, but for someone who had addressed the world, it is a huge chane. I can't stop thinking about what if SM's executives did not really worship the boy groups and were afraid that SNSD was getting bigger than SM? If SNSD had been allowed to crush IU back in 2011, at least Tiffany Young's venues now would have been significantly better than a place which holds 550.
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Big Hit was fighting MBC for a while,because last year MBC put BTS on the same level with NCT. Also, this year txt did not attend the ISAC because one of the members was sick, and MBC was very upset about it. So txt did not attend the Music Core, which is made by the same people who do ISAC and the year end show.
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Yknocker's favorite subject drew 55,000 in her Korean concerts (4 cities, 6 days) , which was quite remarkable for a nonKpop act. However, her guest at the second day of Seoul Concert, Akmu, will probably have a bigger overall audience for their concerts. Akmu does not rent bigger venues; most of its venues have 2,000 - 3,000 seats. However, since they go around most sizable cities of Korea, overall thei aggregate attendees will probably number around 100,000. Some of them would be fans going to multiple concerts, but still ... It is also rumored to play in a few Asian countries after its Korean tour is over. === Park Hyoshin, who has very little following outside of Korea, had 85,000 people coming to his concert. His trick was having a concert in the 14,500 gymnastics arena for 6 days. He unrtunately showed a model to the domesticists of Korea- if you can't rent a bigger venue, have many concerts in smaller venue. To be able to do that , repeat customers will be crucal. However, I have to be amazed that people like Park Hyoshin and Akmu have more people going to their concerts in K_O_R-E-A than a lot of Kpop acts famous around the word.
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Also no GFriend, now owned by Big Hit. So it is certain Big Hit will miss MBC.
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In the older days, Kpop was domestic and not too many people outside of Korea paid attention to it. Still, the three major companies and later Big Hit emphasized foreign activities since that's where the money was. Without foreign activities, KPop acts simply can't survive. Times have changed forever, and even if an act seems mediocre in Korea, if it does well ouide of Korea the foreign income more than offsets the mediocricity in home. International popuarity then boasts domestic relevance, fueling a positive feedback. Even mostly domestic acts like Mamamoo and Bol4 have attempted foreign activities, because without foreign popularity a Kpop act cannot shoot for relevancy. Since 2007, there seems to be only one single act which reached the top echelon of KPop despite of having a negligible foreign presence (not counting a half-hearted attempt to take the Japanese market on 2012), and she has been the last.
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9 years ago, on Dec 09, 2010, a song which threw a wrench to KPop's status quo was revealed. That song ended KPop's golden age, and led to a revival of old style ballads which lasted till about 2017 and still has a residue. Good Day is the most controversial song of 2010s KPop; without that song, I think the Golden Generation of Kpop would have conquered the world by 2013, instead of just BTS in 2019. ==== Fast forward 9 years, Twice's Japanese popularity is rising, and with all the mess occurrig to IZone (which would have made the Kohaku if Ahn Junyoung could have kept his mouth hut during the interrogation), it seems Twice' run in Japan would run unabated. With a second Tokyo Dome concert in next year, Twice will probably attack the Nissan Stadium in Yokohama, which houses 70,000 people which means Twice will have 140,000 in its Nissan Stadium concert. Major Japanese acts performed there, and DBSK also did. For female acts, for reasons I do not follow, Momoiro Clover performed at there FIVE times, and AKB48 once. Given these acts are not what they used to be, it seems that Twice will be the act which will manage that for quite a while. However, after their Tokyo Dome concert, Twice will do a final Korea concert at the Chamshil Gymnastics Arena AKA KSPO dome. However it won't be a 360 degree concert, which means 11,000 (22,000 total) Meanwhile, on Nov 23-24, the singer who sang Good Day had a concert at the same location, but it was 360 degree which means IU has become the female singer in Korea who drew the most people in a concert by drawing 14,500 for two days, 29,000. (SNSD had a 3 day concert when Gymnastics had 10,000 seats, but it is said that there were some empty spos, making their concert size about 27,000.) When Twice has its concert at the Nissan Stadium in 2021 or more probably 2022, IU will probably counter it with having a concert at the Chamshil Main Olympic Stadium, which can hold 60,000 bu in the last Exo concert there it held 35,000 (70,000 total) and in this year's BTS concert it held 45,000 (90,000 total) No female singer ever had a concert there (foreign singers might have had concerts in that location but I won't dig that.) So, if Lee Jieun pulls that off,she has done something no female singer in Korea's history has done. I don't know which of the above is the greater achievement, because although Twice having a concert at the Nissan Stadium will impress theJapanesefans, intenationa fans woud be impressed that KPop's most domstic, anachronistic and uber-reactionary singer now having a concert in the Olympic Stadium where only ,in the recent years, only Exo and BTS performed. That would raise IU to Exo and BTS's level, and move her above Twice. If IU didn't make Korea's domestic sector relevant again, no one would have paid attention to what happened in Korea. But, thanks to her reviving the domestic KPop, she might be held in the same regard with Exo and BTS, and might get ahead of Twice whose imprssive results in Japan could fade before Lee Jieun's domestic dominanc.
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The best selling album of the world, 2019, will be BTS' Map of the Soul: Persona. https://www.ifpi.org/bestsellers-and-global-artist.php (2018 chart) However, this chart from Germany, tracking both physicals and digitals, will probably say Billie Eilish beat BTS at the last wek of 2019. http://www.mediatraffic.de/previous2.htm (it still shows BTS' album no but Finneas O'Connell, Billie Eilish' older brother and chief strategist, hurt BTS where it hurt the most.) On the 49th week, http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week49-2019.htm It shows ColdPlay as having the best selling album of the world for the week, with 212,000, and the #2 spot is occupied by someone I mentioned quite often, with an album sale of 145,000. Someone might say, "Wait, the singer who was mentioned by yknocker the most often is the queen of digitals, right?" In Korea, yes. However, as far as mediatraffic is concerned, Korean digitals do not exist, because Melon is quite cheap so a lot of impurities can occur. So it does not count Asian digitals. Meanwhile, Billie Eilish gained 80,000 sales, which is mostly digital. I don't how that site converts digital sales into album equivalent, but she will get more digital sales from USA and Europe while BTS is unlikely to get more, thanks to Hitman Bang's infinite wisdom to not release an additional album for 2019. It is too late for Hitman Bang to change his ways next year, because Adele, who didn't come back this year, probably will do so next year. I am thinking about something similar back in 2011, when Kim Youngmin, who ran SM at that time,decided boy groups brought more money and brought SNSD down by relasing the 'Shit-B' album, with the already-released-in-Japan Mr.Taxi as its title, which led SNSD to be defeated by the singer yknocker has mentioned most. txt came two times this year, because of X1, since Mnet was slow dealing with the Produce chating scandal and X1 sold 500,000 albums. If CJ/Mnet had not pushed releasing the X1 debut album, txt would not have to come back two times, BTS would have released a mini album and ended any chances Billie Eilish might have had. For Hitman Bang, who has to prepare for BTS' military services, promoting txt is important and X1 necessitated Mr. Bang to make a countermove with txt. All of them eventually helped Billie Eilish to defeat BTS in the week of this year to be crowned as the best sn album of the year in a world chart which does NOT count Asian digital chart.
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Interesting to see that while your pics are mostly about BTS, the main pic appears to be IU, who is BTS's greatest threat. Anyways, it is a big decision. It is whether everyone just does that and goes thru that stage at once so there would be no dragging on, or retain enough members to continue the interest. 2 years is an eternity in pop ; no one knows what will happen. For example, hardly anyone knew who Billie Eilish was earlier this year, but she is now a major figure and a potential threat to BTS.
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Yes, plus txt has to rise fast enough to combat against IU and the new groups SM will release next year. Probably not, but we don't know whether it will be one batch or two or three yet,
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Two batches, and if I put Jimin in the second batch, it will be too much at once. It might be Jin, Suga, Jimin and RM at once but that is too much of a blow
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There are rumors that BTS might do their military service together. I don't think it will be a good idea. Hitman Bang is a businessman and I don't think he will put everything into one basket, but it is possible tha the service will be done in two batches (Jin, Suga and Jimin first batch, and the rest in second batch). In the old days, there is something called Dowager Empress/Queen, the senior woman in the Imperial Household who was the consort of the previous monarch (not necessarily the current monarch's birth mother/grandmother). I wrote this elsewhere a year ago. https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/who-succeeded-the-it-girl-position-of-kpop-after-yoona-suzy-sulli-and-seolhyun-iu.236851/ Tl, dr, King Jungjo of Korea (reigned 1776-1800) tried to institute reform to restore the sagging dynasty's fortunes. His chief political opponent, Dowager Queen Jungsoon who was the younger wife of the King's grandpa, tried to kill Jungjo on 1777, because she was dyed-to-the-bone reactionary , opposed to any kind of reform. Despite of that, because she was technically his grandmother, Jungjo could not punish her. Jungsoon waited for TWENTY-THREE YEARS to regain power, and when Jungjo died on 1800, she quickly regained power, negated every single one of Jungjo's reforms, and put the kingdom back to the old era just when Western powers began to intrude in Asia. ===== BTS is the great wall against IU, who became a Senior Singer on 2014 (I will write about it tomorrow, the 5th anniversary of the first Lifetime Achievement Award for the KPop era). who has always wanted to make KPop return to the old era before 1992, when singing ability was praised and KPop acts did NOT perform outside of Korea. The amazing success of BTS around the world is hiding the great threat IU posseses inside of Korea, where she will gladly stab KPop acts on the back like she did to SNSD in 2011 and Exo in 2014. She is lying low because BTS is the one foe she cannot scale over easily. However, KPop's most reactionary singer did flex her muscles and showed there were 55,000 in Korea who would attend her concerts, and elsewhere I said that she will probably try to retake KPop's initiative when BTS starts the military services. She will probably begin to act when a critical mass of BTS members are in the miliary and can't strike her back immediately. This year, ,yes this year, the trot singer Song Gain rallied a lot of over-50 Koreans and threatened to become the most popular singer of Korea. Only her inability to sing her own song (most of her 'hits' are covers of older trot hits) saved KPop this time. Older singers are always eager to prove their worth and will not stop at anything to mess younger acts, like Cho Yongpil shooting Psy from the back in 2013 or Im Changjung messing up the Gallup polls and robbing #1 from Twice thanks to the support of over 30 K-O-R-E-A-N men. Because she knows the K-O-R-E-A-N-S will swallow anything she releases now, even sleepy and experimental songs in the Love Poem album (none of them would have been a hit if someone else sang them), she can bide her time and strike back when BTS gets weaker, and she will if Hitman Bang allowes all of BTS to enlist at once.