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34 minutes ago, reiichi said:
Except real estate purchases is public information to begin with.
Yeah, so that other people can sell or buy at a reasonable price for their property. Not to gossip about which celebrity lives where.
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Hi! Can we still be added to this? I'm hella queer and nonbinary xP
Also need some advices on where to buy good but not too pricey binders?
If you have tips, send them my way~
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The chosen comments are so savage, jeez
Wish the artists would find another home though, unless YG truly reforms from the inside out (which doesn't seem very likely imho).
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On 1/10/2020 at 2:35 AM, No1 said:
I like Heechul despite some flags, but speaking as a 30 year old, do you know how fucking weird is to even thinking of looking at people 10 years younger than you as (koreans say) "women/men"? I know you all got parents that met with a 15 year old difference, congrats, but really, it was weird back then (despite the normalization), and it is weird now. Yeah, she's an adult, and yeah she likes him and shit, but we all think we got our shit together in our 20's, truth is, we really don't. And in the environment they're at, I can't help but side eye the fuck out of this relationship.
Downvote all you want, but you're not looking at this as a 36 year old guy dating someone 13 years younger, you're looking at it as them being people you like, not through unbiased eyes.
I didn't know the age gap and truthfully didn't think I'd see a comment such as yours. I don't know Heechul nor Momo to speak enough on them as people but yes, you do make a point by pointing at the industry they're navigating in (let's be real, predators fester in here) and the fact that despite being her 23 (so in age to choose whoever the heck she wants to date) there's also a gap in maturity. The age gap does raise a couple of flags for me as well but I can only hope to be proved wrong on this one.
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1 hour ago, Ami11 said:
So your not aware of the entire thing, and didn't follow it completely yet your let yourself judge it based on small stuff... Sure lack of evidences doesn't mean innocence, but for certain it doesn't mean guilty. All stuff your mentioned already proven false, as he never provided prostitutes to anyone, there's a huge difference between prostitutes and escorts, one is illegal and the other is legal, and he provided escorts (was proven by Seungri and escorts company themselves).
And don't bring other people into this to make your point valid, I can bring tons of examples of people where attacked falsely by media and police just for them to turn innocent in the end, but their lives and careers already ruined because of false accusations. And people around Seungri warned him about how people around him looking to use his fame only, nobody knew JJY was a damn sexual predetor, nobody knew an owner of restaurant will be an awful person. So saying people warned him is a stupid excuse, we all meen people we think are good but eventually turn to evil people.
You have deemed someone guilty without any of the accusations against them being proven in a court of law (because he was with wrong people!!!) That is an unjust denial of fundamental human rights and the rule of law. You have the right to believe whatever you won't, but you have no right to go online accusing people with awful crimes without any evidence and without court ruling them guilty.
And so you know, Seungri literally have no victims, no victims came against him, no victims reported about him. And that's fact.
Don't tell me what I can't or can't do. You argue that since all evidences have been turned down, he can't be guilty, so I simply gave you a valid counter argument. Don't you either dare come at me with the ruined lives by media, as a mbb I'm far too well aware of that. Oh and it's not a stupid excuse: if he was warned enough for it to be filmed on tv, you can bet his closest people warned him extensively on more than just being used for his fame in private. He associated himself with people for business reasons, the basic is to get feedback from past partners/investors to evaluate if they're trustworthy. He's a grown man, I doubt he went in without checking first.
Predators are easy to spot when people listen to victims and don't immediately dismiss their voice as trying to get attention or trying to ruin a good man's life. As a matter of fact, predators more than often try to blend in.
Do I want him tried fairly? Heck to the yes. Do I think he's guilty? Yes. Does he deserve jail time imho? Yes. Am I a judge? No. Do I have the right to think so and say it? Yes. Could I still give him benefit of the doubt? I could yes, but so far, nothing inclines me to do so. You want to defend him and think of him as innocent? Please do, not gonna stop you. However, you can't tell me what to think. I chose to form my opinion however it suit myself, it's my right to think he's guilty. Whether it's right or wrong will be determined in the future and quite frankly, so far I'd rather stick to my opinion.
Last thing: escorts may be legal but it's no less the use of women as props to settle deals and entertain powerful men. It's no less gross than providing prostitutes - and quite frankly, it wouldn't be unheard of escorts actually performing sex activities either. Feel free to think whatever you want, I'll do the same.
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On 1/12/2020 at 9:46 AM, seunghyun choi said:
Meh who cares about this. Nothing will change there. Cmon this is the country that literally somehow shot down its own passenger airliner that just left the airport 5mins ago soo obviously theres quite a few screws loose with whos running shit over there.
Saying nothing will change never helps. Things can change, oftentimes it's just hard and takes stupid huge amount of time.
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19 minutes ago, Danee Danee said:
I mean... In this case justice is obviously nowhere to be found so I guess many people just gave up. Im honestly happy at least IZONE disbandment was prevented but already know they will get so much shit... So in the end I dont even know what would be better for them. People just dont get that all kids in this were victims. Those who were eliminated, those who survived on their own, those who got there with special treatment. Non of them was in position to discuss if the company is going to pay the way for them or not. As I wrote before... Most of those kids cant even decide if they want to get 1 inch longer skirt, not so embarassing stage name or 2 more spoons of rice, yet for many so called fans its more important to see the kids suffer then to put the adults who actually made the decisions in jail. /rant
Imho, disbanding x1 was the fairest thing to do given the circumstances: between the public being scammed, those who should've been in the last line up were the game not rigged, the message that not disbanding would've sent to not only the public but also to those who rigged the game. All of it would've ended up with far more hate and resentment, with the kids being on the frontline to receive it. Not to mention that if they went on with the group, the very likely constant backlash could've brought dissension between the members and their fans about who's more legitimate and who didn't cheat to get their way in (even if we all know it's the companies who bribed, ultimately we all know some idiots would make the kids shoulder the fault).
Add to that the fact that since gp felt, rightfully so tbh, wronged they'd be less likely to invest again in a group they knew to be the direct product of someone bypassing the rules. So they'd be less likely to consume content from x1 and given the public sentiment, all the deals they could have striked with brands would have most likely failed because brands would've seen their collab as investing at loss (and the brands could've asked x1's company/the trainees original companies to compensate that loss should they go through with a deal). This isn't an atmosphere for kids to be working in. They're probably already dealing with lots of feelings and it wouldn't be mentally healthy for them.
Disbanding was the best because it allows them to start again - and I'm aware starting again is tough - with a "clean slate" so to speak all the while acknowledging that damage has been done. Now, we can all focus and hope this new start is fruitful for them and that justice will condemn those responsible.
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45 minutes ago, J28 said:
I think its because many of these fans buy into the image that idols/company created. They think of them as their ideal guy/boyfriend. So this revelation just crushes the illusion. And I kinda get if they leave and find another "single" male idol.
This is also something I don't get: they have working proof that the fanbase, especially the supposed target aka young single women, still closely follow and support artists even after they get married with kids. I don't remember which guy from One Direction got a baby but he's still extremely loved. The "perfect boyfriend" model no longer works and it will get more and more irrelevant, especially as groups gradually get more international exposure.
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5 minutes ago, Ami11 said:
Sorry for letting you know people are still believe in "innocent till proven guilty" and not "guilty by accusation"... Yeah I know it's 2020,and human rights ain't a thing but I rather believe in them and not media lies.
I'm sorry if being victim I chose to not expose myself to the whole mess that this was and I'm sorry if those news didn't reach me. However, lack of evidences isn't the paragon proof of innocence. You won't make me believe that the people the closest to him saw who he chose to work with, freaking warned him on television to stop working with them for him to be all white and innocent. Like I said, lack of evidences doesn't mean innocence: Capone was one of the biggest criminals ever and yet they never managed to prove his crimes, one of his two arrests was staged and the other time he was arrested it was for fraud (which ultimately saw him condemned but that's beside the point here) which could be considered petty money compared to all his other crimes.
If the suspicions had truly been proven wrong or false, he wouldn't be facing trial right now. We all know it's not all black or all white, I don't wish for him to be jailed without trial, far from it actually. However, he willingly chose to work with people he'd been warned against. You won't make me believe that he worked willingly with suspicious people, which landed him with heavy accusations of requesting and providing prostitutes services -among other stuff- and he never ever knew anything about it.
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I'll never understand how the private life of idols, especially normal human stuff like finding love, getting married and having a kid, can badly affect the overall product (aka the group) image.
Very sad to see people there should be a specific order to follow and even more so that they can't have their private life freely. Like the comment about the girlfriend posting on Instagram is honestly baffling: is she not allowed to be happy without people scrutinizing her and him as well? Some people really need to learn to separate the idol persona from the human being who has a right to their private life.
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7 minutes ago, Elitsa said:
didn't they get bribed in this whole process? or their higher ups made them do that too
Oh yeah, forgot that bit lol
"Didn't x agency offer you money to put their trainees in the final line up? And you accepted it, right?"
AJY/KYB: "Yes, we did, but only after reporting it to Mnet CEO."
"And they told you you could accept."
AJY/KYB: "Well, they didn't say we couldn't. But it was only to help Mnet and the Produce series."
They should write a 101 book on how to bullshit in front of a court
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5 hours ago, J28 said:
As expected, I think this is the reality for most male idol if they are revealed to be dating/getting married.
I understand the fans leaving tho, it would be weird fangirling over someone's husband.
This is something I don't understand: what's weird about being someone's fan even if they're married? It's a genuine question here
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Is it really necessary? I mean, do we need this info? Like, I'm glad he's growing his patrimoine but that definitely falls into breach of privacy for me. I don't need to know how many buildings he has nor how big or the value of the last flat he bought.
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4 minutes ago, chamber said:
Wasn't there a fee to vote?
Yes there was. Not the biggest fee ever but yes, it was pay to vote.
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35 minutes ago, bzz said:
They are charged of damaging Mnet's business. So, to say they do Mnet's business a favor might technically clear them from this charge.
Lol, basically, they're saying Mnet asked us to do it. They're just downplaying their role to get less punishment and shifting the blame to Mnet. I doubt Mnet or the public would think it's doing Mnet's business a favor and I sure hope not the court would see it that way, especially with how people have been suspicious of Mnet rigging award shows for a while now. Rigging the biggest talent show isn't doing their business a favor, it's slamming the last nail on Mnet's coffin lol
Not to mention that, idk how Mnet is currently positioning themselves nor even if it'd be possible but they could definitely ask to be considered victims as well by the court and provide how this mess affected their general viewers ratings, loss of trust from current or potential investors, deals on hold or not going through to argue back that their business was indeed negatively impacted by this.
Definitely not the wisest defense to hold from those goons imho, one that can easily get debunked by the prosecution without even breaking a sweat.
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On 1/1/2020 at 10:12 AM, Chapter said:
It's far bigger than the KPOP industry. Everywhere around the world people are suffering from depression, unfortunately there isn't much we can do about it.
Except that doing something, even on our own small fan level, can be enough to spring forth change. Small currents make big rivers. The simple fact of trying to force oneself to reevaluate whether or not one should reply to a comment/tweet explicitely made to rile up others is already a step in the right direction. By taking the time to not reply to something stupid, you're preventing others from seeing and interacting with negativity. If it's too serious, use the tools at your disposition to report either to the platform the harmful content is being posted on and if necessary report it to the concerned parties' agency.
Just that is doing a little good to the sphere around you. Encourage others to do the same: stop and think before replying to something, ask yourself if it's necessary to add more fuel to this dumb fire and end up burned yourself?
Also I think hoard mentalities do a lot when it comes to online bullying. If x fandom is against y fandom for whatever dumb reason, anyone trying to make the fire die down is deemed either a traitor or too forgiving. Learning to move on in a healthy way, especially to not repeat past mistakes, is important. Forgiving or moving on isn't forgetting, unlike what some fandoms - some of which I belong to - seem to think. Staying stuck in old battle wounds only breeds resentment and the right soil to nurture past victims in future bullies.
What brings forth change is spreading information and awareness and I believe that even on our scale we can do that.
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10 minutes ago, hwall misser said:
whoever clowns or negs negative comments on here about seungri really needs to self-evaluate . i see this on severl threads about him recently. imagine being that much of a clown..i cant.
on topic: idk what to see. obv it is a shame but im not really shocked
Don't venture on soompi comment sections then lol
Not shocked either tbh but it's sad that we knew to expect this outcome to be the most likely one.
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Lol. Incredible how they can think that manipulating votes, aka having ill intent because they're rigging the whole process from the start by bypassing the rules of the system, can't be deemed being unlawful in their eyes.
Scamming in order to get success isn't unlawful? The audacity some people have when refusing to admit their crimes is honestly hilarious. To even have the guts to ask to reevalute the number of scammed viewers like lol. Buddy, the maths are easy to do, there's no thousand ways to see who got scammed or not. Pitiful, really.
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Being cooperative doesn't necessarily means striking a deal with prosecution though. Like I said, there are evidences, just not "strong" enough, at least in the judges' eyes in regard of the law, to detain him.
12 hours ago, Ami11 said:This judge who rejected the AW and the one who rejected it before are known to be two of most respectful known judges, as they issued AW in high profiled people like ex president, minster of justice, hire of Samsung and tons of politicians.... But some of you here think Seungri is more powerful than those people????? Are you kidding me??? What a joke. Your simply can't accept that media lies the sht out of you and made you all believe their lies.
I don't think he's necessarily more powerful than those people but you won't deter me from thinking he's well acquainted with people who have their ways, especially when we know that corruption is still running rampant in some of the most influential spheres of sk. Or do I need to remind you the time it took for the investigation on BS to change hands from that corrupt precinct to a more competent authority? And that, even with general public outcry.
Oh, another thing: laws are human made. And laws, much like the judges, aren't infaillible.
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3 hours ago, namidaone said:
If the acquired company is known for good artist management, the acquisition would be worrisome.
But it's Pledis, so...I fail to see how it could be worrisome if the acquired company were to have good management? It'd simply be like two companies joining forces, nothing more.
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The fact that people are more and more calling it a witch hunt when the man is involved in this mess for closing eyes/allowing/providing (I'm being kind here) for horrendous crimes seriously bothers me. Lack of strong evidences doesn't magically clean his slate. Also, prosecution doesn't want him behind bars just because they have to put someone behind bars, he's a key character in this mess. The only reason why I think he's not being jailed is because he's being cooperative with the investigation - which is probably a thing allowed by laws like in many countries: detention pre-trial is requested like it's been said for people at risk of fleeing the country, tempering with evidences and/or being a threat for the public.
He should be in jail for what he's done, even pre-trial in my opinion but as a non Korean citizen, all I can do is lament people coming to his defense as if he did nothing wrong.
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Spring cleaning I guess~
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20 minutes ago, nr123 said:good choice to do it immediately as it doesnt give shitty exo-ls a chance to crash it like they crashed baekhyun's brother's wedding
They did what now??
14 minutes ago, respectmyauthori-tah said:Wow
They're very fast
Good luck to them
I hope their relationship goes well
I'd love to know things like
How long they've dated before pregnancy?
Did he take legal actions to protect his resources?
Because on the case of divorce, she will certainly want everything
Actually, that's a matter of their private life so technically, this doesn't concern you :3
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I'm honestly always baffled at people's audacity when it comes to breaking into ppl's lives and putting them at risk. This is crazy and can only hope for harsh punishment.
BTS’s Jin Reported To Have Purchased Another Luxury Apartment
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If you read my original post, it specifically mentions "for me". And even if it's readily available to the public, it's a misuse of it. Feel free to disagree.