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so i think i mentioned before that INFINITE's Woohyun and TVXQ/JYJ's Jaejoong were both on a show called "Photo People" that had a group of dudes taking photos around Tokyo. woohyun and jaejoong have met before -- they took a photo together before (1), sunggyu has at least once attended jaejoong's birthday party (2), and myungsoo is a HUGE jaejoong fan (3). 1 (jaejoong & woohyun): 2 (sunggyu, heechul, junhyung, & zico at jaejoong's birthday): 3 (myungsoo & jaejoong's sister at jaejoong's concert): i was worried when on an early episode of Photo People, jaejoong talked to woohyun about girls (can't remember the episode but i think he was saying woohyun must have had a lot of girlfriends or something like that). but after interacting a lot more directly through the show, jaejoong had some interesting things to say to/about woohyun: "But I saw many new sides to you during this filming *laughs*" "I know, Woohyun-ah~, Hyung knows all of your sincere feelings" "I think we'll be able to build a better relationship" huh.

i agree about sehun. i think he said that before because he was scared. if he was asked about it now it would probably be different, but bless suho's heart for going out of his way to bring it up several times from the very beginning (found another tweet thread both with a suho comment and a more recent sehun one). not that it forgives him, but i get the feeling that what he said at the time he said out of fear. that being said, the thread you linked has a great point. idols are not praise-worthy allies unless they actually SAY something. your favorite idol is not amazing just for having a rainbow on their shirt unless they tell you the rainbow represents support for universal love. it might take a lot of strength to say at first, but isn't it worth it to support many of your fans and peers who are struggling quietly, feeling alone? --- on a side note, i'm really frustrated by Hoya. back in the early days of Reply 1997 ( ), he said: "I heard about my role later. I personally didn't have any bias or prejudice against homosexuality so I wasn't really pressured about that. But my company director was a bit concerned. People around me worried that my image would be negatively affected. But I said that I really wanted to do it and asked multiple times that they allow me. I really wanted to play this role." he also has ALWAYS been one of the most supportive members for the highly-suspected Sungjong @11:35 ↓↓ but then, he also (as mentioned in the twitter thread Bushi posted) referred to Sungjong's lack of masculinity as a problem, and went as far as saying it was a kind of "trauma" that everyone started to think he was gay after Reply 1997: “I was a bit traumatized at hearing I liked men. What was worse was that I heard even celebrities asked about my sexuality. It went as far as to traumatize me. It was like this for over a year after the drama’s finale.†this was a really insensitive thing for him to say and i was (and am) very disappointed in him for saying this... then he comes along on this show Dancing High (where 5 dancing coaches including Hoya works with teams of teenagers dreaming of becoming professional dancers), and worked hard to produce several very emotional performances about being yourself. (song chosen and choreographed by Hoya) as a long-term fan i wish he would revisit his comments from a few years ago and apologize/express explicit support (i'm fairly certain he was aware of the international reaction because he has always been interested in his international fans). *sigh* it'll probably never happen but...

Hoya covers "none" by Crush

well, in Korea, which is one of the most loyally Confucian countries in the modern world, one's "filiality" (how good of a son/daughter you are to your parents) is very important, even as an adult. especially as an adult. of course there are times when you disagree or do the independent thing, but if it's something easily compromise-able like not wearing earrings...

yes, we get that BTS is big and relevant. we aren't annoyed by BTS as much as we are of these petty shipping arguments that sweep the thread every time someone decides to talk about their favorite BTS ship. if you wanna talk about who's GAY in BTS, then by all means DO THAT. but please make it about who is gay *on an individual level* and not who you are convinced they are in a relationship with. if you want to talk about sweet "intimate" moments of your favorite couple putting their hands on each other's shoulders then take it to a shipping thread. this is not the worst idea i've heard, since most BTS discussions here (even when started appropriately) tend to slide over into shipping.

oh i had no idea XD

why tho? the only difference between this story and bts shipping posts is that this time a non-bts member is involved (which only makes it feel more relevant) idk “welcome†is a bit strong. i would say “allowedâ€

i'm an out gay dude with multiple out (and not out) gay friends, but recently i'm questioning my gaydar. one of my good friends who i've known for about 6, almost 7 years came out to me just the other day. we were catching up and at one point he asked about my boyfriend (who he knew about but hadn't met yet). i asked him how he'd been on that front and he was like "i don't have a boyfriend now." "huh?" "i never told you but..." (tells me about ex-boyfriend a few years ago and more) .___________. i had no idea guys i'm completely shocked. everything i've ever known is in flux.

well, at the current moment, we're actually close approaching the first anniversary of Jonghyun's passing.i wouldn't be surprised if, romantically connected or not, the music had to do with him. (again, can ANYONE confirm if Key is even the lyricist for any of his songs?)

o man if every man *i* thought was attractive was actually gay... *dreaming*

video w/ eng-subbed lyrics: it kind of reminds me of this song from Jonghyun's last album ↓ but i don't know if Key had any part in penning lyrics for this song (or anything off his upcoming album). anyone know who did the lyrics for Forever Yours?

wow that was unexpected. what a cool, honest(, and sexy) guy

woohyun new song from concert sounds REALLY good

then it's clearly pressed people faking it.

i know i was shook and i don't even say that phrase.

holy shit! hope this makes strong advancements

basically intro (2 eps), elimination #1 (2 eps), elimination #2 (2 eps), pre-finale (1 ep), finale (1 ep) --> 8 eps. too short, but we got a LOT of great shit from that penultimate episode (dance battles).

ending. holy shit. fucking. those teams. so good. idk even. ;;;;;;. why is this show over. baby hold me.

i want to go out of my way to thank you for being one of the only people in this thread to use spoiler tags properly. yes that’s a read regarding the last couple pages.

decent vocals and decent dancing are required. most main vocals are good, some fantastic, but the majority of kpop vocals are only "karaoke-good" (with many simply "carrying a tune" or worse) oh-ho. if it means nothing then why aren't there more people like Holland in kpop (or even Korea at-large). what has longevity got to do with anything? Holland is there to be the one. here's a few direct quotes from a brief article: "I thought there's got to be someone like me who discloses their sexual identity." "I became a victim of school violence after that. They didn't keep my secret. So I was bullied a lot at school. But no one could actually comfort me, not even my parents or friends. Or any public figure." "This song ["Neverland"] is for kids who are having a bad time because of their identity... I wanted to comfort them with this song while they're struggling."

he's not a dancer in the slightest. he's not a particularly great singer. neither one of these are qualifications to be an idol – your standard idol is not inherently much more musically talented than your average karaoke singer or talent show dancer, they simply have diligence, looks, and a manageable personality (sometimes with a strong inclination or exceptional talent in one or more categories). in Holland's case, his charms are his soft prince-like looks and "the fact that he's openly gay," which is actually nothing to scoff at in a country where he and the Korean-American Marshall are the only 2 publicly out singers, and tells a LOT about who he is and what kind of strength it took him just to get this far. he doesn't have power vocals, or dancing skills... but most idols (including solos) don't actually have these, they just get away with great production values and hours of hard work perfecting the choreography. and then, i just really like the song Neverland

HSC on masked singer a few months back, look how well loved he is. the audience adores him.

send me all the rumors plox

you guys, been going through my old posts and i miss the community that used to be here, and before on Hallyu8 and 6Theory. weird that i was only 20 when i first started getting involved with kpop, and only 21 when i first heard of INFINITE when they released the music video for Before The Dawn. weirder still that i'm 27 now, 28 next week. anyway, thought i would share this picture i restumbled upon, which is one of my favorite shots of INFINITE and used to be my desktop wallpaper during college: and also this video i recently discovered (not sure if it was posted in the thread already) of some k-Inspirits telling it like it is: and lastly, i'd like to say that i've been listening to Hoya's "Baby U" a lot lately and i apologize for my sharp judgement of the song at first. i'm really loving the song, even the chorus which had me off at first, though my favorite part is still the verses with that bizarre pulsing synth that sounds like something out of Earthbound. (for reference:) so yeah, hope those of you that still show up to OH are doing well, and of course those who no longer do as well, and hope that you're still listening to the boys and remember the more active days this isn't a goodbye because i'll still be here wandering around as i do... so... see ya around

donghae and... i want to assume it's eunhyuk but really can't tell for sure, i don't know his ass as well as i should