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Is there one? If so, I'm in. I'm totally here for Jinhyeong and I don't really have a problem with OT6. Hongseok is preferable to Chanwoo but not by much to me, so I'd rather not split votes. Also not down for negative posts about any of the guys. None of them have shown anything that deserves getting hated on.
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If they keep wearing it when they perform in Korea then there's a good chance! Plus on the Mix & Match logo the colors are black and red.
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Unpopular Opinion: I actually loved B.I.'s arrangement of Let it Go. I don't particularly like the song but I thought this was a cute rearrangement of it with a lot of dynamics. Would have been even better though with better harmonies to compliment Lee Hi. Also liked Donghyuk. Sometimes his tone and the thinness of his voice is annoying but I liked him here. I thought it was one of his better performances. Though, I did think that harmonizing with Hi made him sound more thin. I had to watch the video again to catch Hongseok's part. I've tried to see the potential other people see when they talk about him but he doesn't seem to improve. He still doesn't feel like he's part of the team and I'm not going to blame that on the team. I think they get along with him okay but given the criticisms he gets, maybe he doesn't work hard enough. There are plenty of people I like but who I don't have chemistry with or want to be with them in a work environment. If it's hard for him now when he should be the most fired up, it's going to be unbearable when they debut. Don't want a team that has someone leave in a couple of years (no shade!).
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Exactly. Seeing the judges choose him over everyone else made me think they're setting him up for a big fall. He also hasn't had any criticism for any of his previous performances. I think YG is making sure that people resent him flying by with ease despite lack of talent. I'm mean c'mon- they picked him over JUNE!!!!
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I feel so relieved after this episode! So, it looks like all the people who were looking on voting for Chanwoo because he's non-existent got slapped in the face with seeing him make it over all the other Team B members when the judges were left to choose. It's too much including how he's never even been given negative feedback. Now, it'll seem surprising when he doesn't make it in- therefore good tv. Now the person who did get the good edit was Jinhyeong. We have him suffering in the bottom alongside lovable originals, June and Yun plus Yun supporting him during his solo (like a team member!!!!). All this before the Korean fanmeeting. I have hope for Jinhyeong now and I definitely think all of Team B will make it.
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It wouldn't just be random, right? Them doing a photoshoot together. Maybe they're starting pre-promo or something? Does anyone know if they've done it like that in the past?
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This show was such a messy affair. Glad they're cutting it short. Just give us whoever. I hope and pray for Jinhyeong though.
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Yeah, he reminds me of Taeyang before he debuted. Let's face it, most songs are love songs. He's sorta clueless. While GD definitely had experiences to write about from the get go and despite his busy schedule continued to accumulate them after debut. Whatever you think about GD, when you read his lyrics, it's pretty clear that he's talking from experience which helps people connect better to the songs. But B.I. is so closed in. How's he going to get this experience when he's so busy and he seems like he hasn't even had a girlfriend yet?
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Maybe Chanwho is only getting screentime so that when he gets cut, it'll be more emotional for the viewers? Jinhyeong is ma boy!!! His voice, his face! His up and coming stage presence! Gimmie more please June was too talented for that song. Thought Team Bobby's performance was a little messy. Jinny's team did a little better but I thought Jinny and Yunhyeong didn't do as well as they are capable of doing. However, their team had better teamwork. Though I really want a Bobby/June subunit. They work really well together. Totally in sync...onstage. I'm getting tired of the pointlessness of this show. Glad it seems there won't be too many episodes. I care about the lineup but I figure, I'll probably be a fan regardless, as long as they make good music and since B.I. and Bobby will be doing that and they're in, I'm not super worried. But best case would be one or two more good vocals- so either or both Jinheyong and Hongseok. Commencing crossing the fingers.
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Sorta worried for GD and Kiko but these pictures are really cute Wonder what YG is going to say? I have a feeling it might be unintentionally funny.
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I'm up for anything fun at this point. I'm starting not to care about the lineup as long as they entertain me. This show seems oddly draggy. Maybe the girls will bring something new to the table. The boys were really funny around them. Plus Lee Hi and Akdong girl are pretty cool.
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All of these plus 4. He's got a great smile! Never underestimate the power of a smile (seriously though, I think his vocal potential is equal to or exceeding Hongseok so with all the other positives I chose him for now)
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It's really fishy how the voting rules still haven't been made clear. Maybe, I'm remembering this incorrectly but for Win didn't they let everyone know the format pretty early on? What if YG is just waiting to see how the voting goes in the fan meets before deciding on the format most favorable to the outcome he wants.
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I feel so giddy! This experience- what is it? Hate on the internet!!!! No- pass me my vapors! Do you have anything constructive to say? I'd listen if you had an actual opinion to offer,
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I don't mean style as in genre of music and I don't think YG thinks that either. Like you said, Big Bang members like and use many different genre styles and are still cohesive as a group. Every member of Big Bang and YG artists in general have a particular style. It's difficult to put into words but you know it when you see it. It's sorta in your face, come play with me kinda thing. I actually like members to have a variety of individual genres they excel in, I think it's a plus. But overall style is the issue. Like even Akdong is more YG style than this guy. (For now) I feel like I'm not explaining this well.
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So sorry. Accident neg. I totally agree. After watching the translation of the comments YG was saying to him, it's clear that it isn't the voice that's the problem. I think his tone would really fit in the group but you can't fit square pegs in round holes. Teamwork and style compatibility with both the group and the company are necessary and having all these other awesome things doesn't make that need go away. During Big Bang documentary YG chose seungri over hyungseung even though he was both a better dancer and singer. However the guy lacked in his expressions while seungri had confidence. That's how much those intangibles mean to YG and I can't say he's wrong. But YG spoke to Hongseok's a lot. He really emphasized that it was a problem so hopefully he can try to focus on it and fix it.
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June continually impresses me. I really love his unique tone but on top of that he makes really interesting vocal choices. Some people with unique tones get lazy and just rely on that alone to sing a song, but June has definitely worked hard on his voice. I think just like another poster mentioned before, June has a lot of innate musicality. I am so happy about Yunhyeong. After Win ended, Yunhyeong was my least favorite out of all the boys. I thought his voice was mediocre and his personality didn't really stand out for me. I love how much he has improved in both vocals and stage presence. (Plus, is it just me or has he been looking way cuter lately? ) Since we've also been able to see some of his personality (which is really nice!), I am totally convinced that the group needs him badly. Seeing how emotional he got after YG complimented him was really sweet. Boy must've worked so hard for that one compliment. YG can be really cruel... as is the world. But he worked hard and overcame. Don't quite know why puppy Chanwoo is getting all the compliments but I don't think it'll last. He probably fits the best and he's most comfortable on stage versus the other newbies but his voice is nothing at all. I'd rather go with Jinhyeong who has a lot of potential as a singer and looks like he'll definitely eventually fit in well. Hongseok sang pretty well. It was his first stage. But he sorta looked like he was singing alone. His vocal choices were also completely bland. I don't know if he has any innate musicality. Also didn't like his...umm..rhythm? It was like he wasn't pacing himself well in the song. Singing with the girls should be interesting. Lee Hi looked so cuTE . I have a serious crush on her voice!! Now there is a prime example of innate musicality! Even on Kpopstar when girl barely knew anything about singing, she made interesting vocal choices. You don't have to be practiced in singing to have a creative vocal feel. Although after practice, you'll have more to work with vocally in order to make creative choices. Although we talk about the YG swag concept, I think what he's looking for is not as rigid of a swag concept as you might think. Like I think according to YG someone like Daesung fits his swag concept just fine. I think it's more being able to strongly appeal to the audience in a powerfully attractive way that YG looks for. That's why I think he was eyeing Hongseok so bad, because he doesn't really care if Hongseok is not hip hop but he does care if he isn't "powerfully attractive" in the YG tradition. Yg is also giving Jinhyeong notice that he needs to step up his charisma and show himself to look more natural. I think that's why vocally weak but able to carry his cuteness into performance-Chanwoo got the nod of approval. Man this was so long!
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Right on!! Personally, the all the boys still come off as really nice to me. These boys have been and are being groomed in a competitive high-performance environment. It's like having a racehorse versus a pony at a petting zoo. Racehorses are crazy because of their intense training at a young age. Those animals will jack you up in a hot sec and are extremely temperamental. When they retire (at a young age) they have to be rehabilitated to normalize their behavior. These boys are holding up really well. They could be 100 times more high-strung than this. The fact that they can so easily come to befriend the two new guys who may be replacing them, effectively changing the course of their young lives is a miracle.
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Ya know... Looking at the translation of B.I. scolding the boys makes me re-evaluate Hongseok. I had previously thought he looked like he resisting what B.I. was saying, which would be totally arrogant (especially when it was just the truth). The other newbies had their heads down and hands clasped, acknowledging their mistakes and this guy looks frustrated. But now after looking at the translations, I'm allowing the possibility that maybe Hongseok was frustrated with his own performance and not at being scolded. We need more footage!!! However, I just want to say that I'm really surprised at how desperately some people are defending him. He just got here and hasn't shown a lot yet. I'm pretty neutral on him. But... appealing to people without much info is a good trait for an idol group, it is something not everyone has and it enhances the group's popularity. Does anyone know if people on the Korean boards are reacting to Hongseok the same as people here?
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Though there are some people who are taking issue with Hongseok because "OT6 FOREVA!", it's important to differentiate those opinions from people who just didn't like him so far from what we've seen this episode. I like the bond of the original 6 but if someone's weak and there is somebody who can fit in the group better then that person or persons should make it in. We have more episodes to get a better feel for the situation. However, I know that if this kid doesn't get along with the others then for me that's an absolute NO-NO. I don't care what he's doing vocally or performance wise if he's going to be an obstacle to the group's cohesiveness and longevity. It's too early to determine this, but his vibe and interactions so far have given me a heads-up that this might be a problem.
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I really feel this is the main issue. Hongseok turned me off. I'll wait for the subs for a more detailed critique but I didn't have a good first impression of his attitude. His style seems to clash with the rest as well. Also, if he can't get along with B.I. then I don't want him. The one person everyone should get along with is the leader, that's how the leader binds a group together. For example, look at Bigbang. The one person who everyone is attached to is GD. Because the leader has the trust of the all the individual members, he can lead them as one. This is really vital and cannot be underestimated. Even June, who is snarky and individualistic, has never challenged B.I. or shown him attitude when he was being dressed down. But this new kid on the block is up here rolling his eyes and crap when B.I. is telling him to work harder. His voice is good but not great so it's not like they'd be missing out on some outstanding talent. Plus Jinhyeong has definitely shown huge potential with great tone and power that seems to go with the rest. I was losing faith in Donghyuk so I'm so happy that he showed how good he can actually perform. His voice isn't very varied but he does have a nice sound if his part is tailored for him. So glad he finally stood up to the pressure.
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Truthfully, I think it probably just supports YG's reasoning for rearranging the team vocals. I mean both Bobby and B.I. songs charted very well. The song they wrote for Winner charted very well. This song wasn't a single or anything, it was more like an album song but the charting does look disappointing in comparison. I like the song, but I do think it would pop more if the vocals lines were sung differently. I don't think it's that big a deal though. It's not a single or promoted or anything. It's just a song for the fans.
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After watching the subbed episode, does it seem like YG is just talking to Chanwoo when he says he hasn't seen any of Team B before? Or was that just my imagination? Also, it was weird how Chanwoo didn't answer when B.I. asked if he wanted to do singing or acting more. He even looked uncomfortable with the question. Thankfully, JinHyeong seemed more excited about being a singer.