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I'm here for the boycott. I honestly haven't paid so much for a rookie group to get so little. I remember paying less in 2NE1's debut year and getting so much MVs, promos, behind the scenes and dance practices. I see Ikon's debut too (bless them) they got so much - a mini album release and they're getting a full album in December with 5+MVs. They're getting their money's worth. It's like this 2015, YG suddenly remembered to collect annual due fees from inner circle without giving anything. Kinda feels like I'm funding YG's projects, since I don't see the money going to winner's comeback after all. I'd gladly pay for a DVD if it was a concert tour, but it's for their fanmeet. lmao. And in all fairness to the fandom's complaints, the rest of the YG fandom gets footage from their tours in youtube. We get nothing. lol

It's off-putting already that he hasn't released any group thing this year. Winner is a baby idol group. Unlike his other rookies Hayi or Akmu, winner wasn't formed through a national singing contest with double digit ratings (they also don't have hits before debut). Winner is from a cable reality TV show watched by YG fans. They should've released something by now. Their hype now is just maintained by their fans who stayed. SMTM 4 maybe helped a little. Single or album, anything, something is due this year. Anywaay upside to being their fan, I haven't spent anything for kpop this 2015 except Mino's Fear. I am willing to buy anything.

I think YG should give WINNER November and Ikon December. Not a full album, of course. Just something after the WWIC DVD. I just need a group release GDI. Their Sweden and Britain trip aren't for nothing right? RIGHT? T.T Thoss inches heard something! So they must have something polished. And he posted in Instagram too! I don't know where he'll place the Epik Jr High trio but maybe after IKON. Kinda like GDTOP releases.

I was backreading. I loved reading the discussions. I just want to say I didn't find their debut songs boring at all. I'm one of those people that liked Empty/Color Ring combo. They really stood out from everyone. I loved listening to their album esp on rainy days. Hm. I can listen to their album for a long time, much like I can listen to AkMu, IU, etc. Maybe I'm growing old, lmao. Sometimes kpop dance "bops" are too much (too much bass, too processed, etc etc) that I can only listen to it at a small amount at a time. While I'd love for WINNER to have an upbeat track, but pleaseee not a generic bass filled dance track. I hope it still sounds like them. Alsoooo, am soo lateeee but super excited for this comeback!! I don't even care if it's in November. I don't even care if ridic rumors come off it. lol. I am guessing YG wont release something officially yet since we all know his schedule is fluid. :p

I didn't know Winner's album is in Spotify. #late

2015 YG is messy. Big bang MADE is its only saving grace. Even though winner had rushed promos, YG had an amazing 2014. Crush, AkMu, Taeyang, Winner, Epik High all lined up the charts. YB, EH and Akmu charted high (top 10) in the year end awards. BORN HATER and I'm Different singles charted high too. Bom went on roommate (you could argue that's the reason why someone dug in her past because she got popular in roommate), Winner TV as well. Lol. What happened.

Edit: why do I top when I don't have anything useful to say. lol. WINNER ORICON STYLE PICS: Source: oricon.jp Hoon *_* Not here for Kangnam's 50:50 hairstyle. lol. You can't try to rationalize someone who is super biased af that he claims to be ikon's 8th member. lol. It's okaaay. He can be their 8th member if they want. IC's are winner's 6th. :p

Incles, stay strong♡ Nate Pann: If there are any sad WINNER fans (trans.) Kang Seungyoon "Our (Winner's) main goal is for the people who listen to our music to become winners as well... I hope that the sad feelings we express through our songs are relatable to the people listening, and can be of comfort to them. While listening to our songs, rather than thinking 'Wow, they're cool. They're good looking', I'd like the music to be healing and give people strength." (trans.) "I have gotten to this point with the strength in believing that Winner would become one through music, and I'm so thankful that I am able to confirm that strength at this moment today. Also, I am very thankful to all of you because we have gone through a lot of difficult times to meet with you. The five of us really needed this stage since we were young, it was a dream of ours. We were able to achieve this dream by standing on the stage at Big Bang's Dome tour, and at the WIN finale; however, we promised each other that we would have a concert with the 5 of us, and thanks to this tour and all of you, we were able to make that dream come true. I thank you so much. I believe that we will stand on an even bigger stage in the future. I'm not sure if we'll be able to return to this Zepp tour but I don't think we'll ever forget this moment at our first concert for the rest of our lives. Thank you, and thank you guys for being our fans." If someone like this is the leader, I think everything will work out Sure you could say that they're faking it, but there are rarely any idols that do it to that extent these days, especially Nam Taehyun, look at how good is to the fans I believe that if there are a lot of good people who surround you, that shows even more how good of a person you are There are a lot of people that support Winner; I'm a VIP but strangely I have a soft spot for Winner. If you're sad because of CEO Yang's interviews, just know that the real winner is WINNER. I liked Team A during 'WIN' and I even listened to their whole album and Kang Seungyoon's interview especially left a very deep impression on me. I like Winner a lot! (+205, -3) 1. (+53, -0) Thank you...♡ To be honest it did make me a little sad, but we have to be understanding... phew 2. (+50, -0) The original "fan's fan" is Nam Taehyun, but as time goes on all 5 members have become their fan's fanã…‹ã…‹ They did an event FOR fans, and their love for fans is always just really strong so I'm so thankfulã… ã… ã…œ Just comeback, kids 3. (+47, -0) Kang Seungyoon speaks very prettily/wellã… ã… I'm not a fan but I do support Winner, do well!! 4. (+23, -2) A fool for the fans, NamTae..... 5. (+22, -0) I'm not a fan, but I really hope Winner does extremely well. Their songs are good, and it's very nice to see that the members are like that. 6. (+20, -0) Thank you.... Honestly there are time I've been sad because of this, and I even had thoughts that Winner would be forgotten... ã… ã… ã… ã… Thank you so, so much 7. (+20, -0) To be honest, it would be a lie if I said I didn't get sad about it all 8. (+17, -0) I can honestly tell that these guys are sincere 9. (+15, -0) Each member of Winner is so kind and has deep thoughts.. Skills are skills, but I fell for their humility and warm personalities 10. (+14, 0) Thank you, reallyã… ã… Whoever runs winnerbuzz, thank you for translating this.

Honestly. He needs to stop. This is not damage control.

I saved all images during their debut in imgur so they wont get decompressed. They were lining up all kinds of charts and itunes. Twitter was amazing that night. lol. I cant wait for their comeback. T_T UK incles are amazing preparing something in such short notice. O:

2PM. Winner will arrive in 3 hours time. Fear has 618667 downloads on its 5th week as of 9/19 in Gaon. Proud of mino and zico. The instrumental is amazing! Kinda sounds like a winner song actually. The intro sounds like WINNER video teaser. Zico also posted Mino mixtapes but I am soundcloud dumb and I can't find the direct link. lol. It plays after the instrumental. ^^ https://soundcloud.com/user946777358/inst-wave I saw you in the other threads. I died imaging bald winner singing a drama ost. lolol. As per modeling career, ikr. First NYC. Then UK. Then in their next photoshoot, Paris or Milan maybe? :p

I am now wishing for both a comeback and winnertv season 2. Lol. Somehow, a CB is more believable. But I really miss WTV.

Lee Seunghoon Appreciation Page! lol. I miss winnertv. On another note, the fandom has no chill. I went to check out yg's instagram and I saw 23k comments on the that one WINNER post. (The most comments in other yg posts are around 2-3k. lol.)

Happy Anniversary of Don't Flirt live performances! lol. This was one year ago with Namtae butt-touching. In celebration of their triple win in Mcountdown? I think. ^^

Zico instagram 09212015 https://instagram.com/p/74xPiJPO4P/ woozico0914Zipal We runnin this rap shit~~~~~~ #mino #jamezz #andup #one #zico Zipal team really did great. ^^ #YangHyunSuk Promises #WINNER and #iKON Will Stay Together for At Least 10 Years In a phone call with Daily Sports on September 20, YG Entertainment’s Yang Hyun Suk made a big promise to fans: “I’ll make sure iKON and WINNER become groups that stay loved for at least 10 years.†“BIGBANG has been going for nine years now; before that, it was tough for a group to stick it out for even five years,†says Yang Hyun Suk. “BIGBANG grew throughout the nine years, and I’m so proud of the fact that they are a group now representative of Asia.†He mentions the long training process for WINNER and iKON. “Before [their] debut, they spent at least four to five years as trainees. For a team that went through that to just disappear after four to five years is something that cannot happen.†Yang Hyun Suk continues, saying that the success of just WINNER or iKON, of just YG Entertainment, is not what’s important, but the growth of the music market. “In order to make that happen, YG will continue to invest in the music and promotions of WINNER and iKON.†Regarding BIGBANG’s huge move this year with their framework of releases for “MADE,†Yang Hyun Suk says that it was a huge challenge for YG, and that they — and BIGBANG — were rewarded with first place on the Gaon chart for four months. While iKON and WINNER still can’t really be compared to BIGBANG, he says, he has big plans for the two groups. “BIGBANG has paved the way, and as a result, I have a degree of expectation for WINNER’s and iKON’s growth to be a bit quicker. With the talent of the two teams and the infrastructure of YG, we’ll make great things happen.†Source (1) He better get started then. With One on the roster too. lol.

I am just happy I am getting something from the group after a year of waiting. Lol.

credit: @hugeboy_mino93 What is WINNER to you? trans by: @namtaeownsme Mino: My beginning and end Namtae: Home

Vocir has a Color Ring MV rewatching event today 09/19 at 9PM KST. Haha maybe Mnet was ahead of schedule. lol. Anyway, posting the video here, cause why wait later. There was also an event of #Empty20M. Currently at 18M.

I topped! predebut Hiphop WINNER lol. An excuse to repost a WINNER video out of nowhere? Haha. Besides Nii, SMTM4 (Mnet) residuals are the only korean promotions happening with winner atm. I need Jinu/Namtae's drama to start already. ^^

Lol. I took as Mnet/Mpd is being an incle promoting nowhere-to-be-found winner. Different strokes, different folks I guess. I miss fanboy MPD.

Whats with these hacking of some of the biggest international fansites of WINNER. WINNER is not coming back soon.. Lol. Some people should refocus their energy on other stuff.

For people who dont really watch fancams, the spoiler cover fancam is worth watching! Hoon was amazing. I feel like he has been wearing a choker since he started in the v-app. )

After all the shades from YG From WIN, it gets repetitive. I no longer care for his opinion. I just need a comeback. As a group. I hope they dont get shafted into oblivion. I mean its been a year since their 1 month debut promotion. :( a month.

I just watched the FB cover they seemed to have so much fun on stage. ^^ Mino's Fear on WINNER's YT is almost at 1M! 994,000+ And it's been a week or so since SMTM4, Mino's 3 songs are still on Melon top 10.

Click here to view the Tweet Click here to view the Tweet He posted the part were Mino says he's WINNER. :p I love Bigtone. lol. Also this is why the crowd is so dead Click here to view the Tweet -__-