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  1. i understand why zhai be banned because constantly shading jessica

     

    but puresica who always bash taeyeon and tiffany is still not banned?????.

    other user with multiple account who always bashing taeyeon left and right in every thread is not getting banned..!!

     

    the amount of hate that taeyeon get is insane, but mod are not doing anything about it, but when other get hate mod can banned user who constantly make war thread.

     

    i dont know if dmn are taeyeon bias or not, but how come he get banned but other troll is still alive, i even still remember taeyeon hater from back then before baekhyun scandal who still bash taeyeon until now, still doesnt get banned

     

     

    are mod is taeyeon hater??? please don't be bias! only banned user because they bash idol that mod like, but not banned user who constantly bash idol that mod dislike. no wonder taeyeon hate in here is never ending.

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  2. i understand why zhai be banned because constantly shading jessica

     

    but puresica who always bash taeyeon and tiffany is still not banned?????.

    other user with multiple account who always bashing taeyeon left and right in every thread is not getting banned..!!

     

     

    are mod is taeyeon hater??? or join jessica stan banwagon??? please don't be bias! only banned user because they bash idol that mod like, but not banned user who constantly bash idol that mod dislike. no wonder taeyeon hate in here is never ending.

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  3. The faceless netizens(taeyeon haters) got butthurt I guess...  :hurr: They'll never stop. I only like the bolded comment.

     

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    Article 'The Taetiseo' Kim Heechul, Advice to Taeyeon…"Don't look at Internet"

    Source TV Report via Naver

     

     

    • [+25734 -1344] Heechul-ah, if you're a true friend, instead of dont look at internet advice, you should ask her to please stop using Twitter/Instagram

       

    • [+18488 -3432] She's already 8years on showbiz but she has no friend so she called an oppa from her agencyã…‹ã…‹ Her life has been a wasteã…‹ã…‹
    • [+13787 -1683] Out of all people it's Kim Heechul ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+8557 -3543] That's right... Werent EXO-L cockroaches posting a lot of malicious comments about her dating Baekhyun???
    • [+2747 -177] By the way..Isnt most of people you dont know their face also buying your album and make you achieve this position?...ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹What a contradiction. Just said to avoid malicious comments. It's a bit weird if you said people that you don't know their faceã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+2713 -347] She has the personality that girls dislike the most thats why she has no friend
    • [+2583 -313] You posted a meaningful sticker of 8 people on the day Jessica news explodedã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ How old are you exactly? Why do you act like a middleschooler? Now I know why you have no friend
    • [+2493 -290] She has no one but males around her
    • [+2332 -279] She just put on a show to feel downã…‹ã…‹ã…‹What kind of drama did you shoot?ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+2178 -202] Is this really reality show?ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ There's no reality to SM but withdrawalã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+2206 -230] Why did the man and woman cuddle?
    • [+1975 -184] What kind of drama is this? ã…‹ã…‹Cringe-worthyã…‹ã…‹ã…‹What do you do exactly
    • [+1950 -203] Netizen: dont act sly
    • [+1862 -158] Heechul-ah~ you also dont look!! You're also problematicã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+1713 -153] What a natural skinship ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
    • [+1115 -64] Taeyeon has no close female celebs so she called Heechul. She also never mentions female celebs at all. It's right that she has personality that women dislike ã…‹ã…‹ Eventho you can considering she has inferiority complex, there are so many female celebs prettier than Taeyeon. Could it be she cant be close to them due to jealousy.. This is an ugly personality that only women can understand

       

     

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    sigh....

     

    today: taeyeon is loner, she doesnt have friend. even snsd members dislike her.

     

     

    few days ago: taeyeon is evil bitch who persuade other 7 member to kick out jessica

     

    so much contradiction in these statement

     

     

    so how taeyeon have power to kick jessica out?? if taeyeon is that "evil", so how other 7 agreed with taeyeon?? so how taeyeon who doesnt have friends can persuade other 7? are taeyeon putting a gun to members head?? if taeyeon is the "evil bitch" why other 7 not kick her out instead jessica??? why other 7 not siding with jessica but with evil taeyeon?? are other 7 is also evil??? so how come other 7 doesnt get any hate???

     

    summary: people just want to hate taeyeon no matter what eventhough netizen have to eat their word and contradict themself. they just used her as a scapegoat

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  4. today: taeyeon is loner, she doesnt have friend. even snsd members dislike her.

     

     

    few days ago: taeyeon is evil bitch who persuade other 7 member to kick out jessica

     

    so much contradiction in these statement

     

     

    so how taeyeon have power to kick jessica out?? if taeyeon is that "evil", so how other 7 agreed with taeyeon?? so how taeyeon who doesnt have friends can persuade other 7? are taeyeon putting a gun to members head?? if taeyeon is the "evil bitch" why other 7 not kick her out instead jessica??? why other 7 not siding with jessica but with evil taeyeon?? are other 7 is also evil??? so how come other 7 doesnt get any hate???

     

    summary: people just want to hate taeyeon no matter what eventhough netizen have to eat their word and contradict themself. they just used her as a scapegoat

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  5. That's not true (I can quote some posts to proove it)... I used to follow this thread but now I unfollowed it because I was so mad seeing people hate on Jessica and turning their back on her that quickly. I was so disappointed on some hypocrit sones  :._.:

    but yourself portraying other 8 as the one who betray sica, and u several time dragging down sooyoung and yoona into the mud as they the one who often missing in performance (when actually SM who order them to skip the performance, not they have a choice to begin with)

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    When Seohyun doesn't realize she's indirectly teasing Tiffany... and Tiffany's reactions haha  :lol:

    Which composer do you want to work with?

     

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    i though people laugh because JYP if some kind of funny man, i just realize from this give that audience think that colaboration with JYP means with 2PM LOL..

     

    love that YHY hit tiffany, as he can't hold himself about how clueless seohyun.

  7. I agree that she might have a hard time juggling both her business and her idol career but what I can't understand is why the hell did they accept at the first place, as you said, Jessica can't take a step back because she would have to pay millions to her partners, and maybe they decided to let her go because they don't want her to lose her business but they shouldn't have fired her, there are million ways to sort things out. Still, I think Jessica was doing a great job juggling both BLANC and SNSD activities, she never missed any schedule unlike some other members who did for their dramas and stuff and still are (sooyounf for example who's not coming to SMtown Tokyo) , so no I refuse to believe that this was the reason why they kicked her out.

    The answer for your question already in SM statement, SM agreed jessica to do business but after doing the last album, so she can have good farewell, however jessica broke her promise and start early and struggle with that, now when snsd on hiatus she can't set priorities For snsd, so how can she focus to preraring snsd comeback from recording the song until promotion?? So SM decide to cut her before she might held down snsd comeback.

     

    and please to understand the difference between work for company and work for your own business. Sooyoung and yoona drama are work who they get through SM and under SM supervision, its mean that SM have authority to arrange their schedule, this mean that if there are schedule outside group, SM who pick them, so if some snsd member missing on performance, is not because the member want to, but SM who order them (because SM get bigger fee than snsd performance fee, so its okay for them to not perform), and they have to obey. That why SM turn down so many job for the girls because SM want them as can as posible to not class with group schedule. But different with sica as SM doesnt have control to interfere with Blanc. So just like in office when other company pay your boss to lend his employee skill, so your boss ask u to leave the office and helping other company, and is okay for your boss if u often leave office and neglect your main job because your boss already get the compensation from it. But for jessica is like when u open restorant in your house, and u ask company to work less hour and leave early from office to manage your restourant. Of course your boss wouldn't happy if u often leave early to manage your business, because he expect u to work that bring profit to company, not to your own pocket. And your boss can't interfere your business or ask u to leave your business, boss can only fired u when u unable to focus in your own job. Same case like jessica, SM cant force her to abandon BLANC, not attending the school, etc. But they also cant make jessica absent from performance because she have shareholder meeting or negotiate with her business partner or attending school in US, while SM doesnt get any benefit from jessica activity (and of course jessica still get share money from snsd group activity while she doing nothing), while they hoping jessica can use her time to make activity that bring profit to SM. So understandable for SM and other girls to make her to choose.

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  8. I agree with everything you said but doesn't she deserve a nice departure?

    Well there is a reason that we dont know why SM decide to do extreme route, however, Jessica is not "suddenly" being kick out because this dispute already being start since February's. I think they already give jessica ultimatum and jessica choose BLANC but jessica insist not to leave SNSD. Do you think SM can give proper goodbye if jessica insist to stay in SNSD?? She maybe think that there is no way SM would fired him because how much her contribution to SNSD, but in the end, there is no individual is bigger than company and SM choose the hard way. (this reminds me on how alex ferguson kick out david beckham from Man Utd). just like in your office, when your boss already fired u in a good way, and u still insist come to work and spoiled the team, they will force u out

     

    Accually SM want to pull out sulli by making jessica as hiatus until everyone adapt to see SNSD perform as 8, then announce Jessica is not part of the team, but jessica is impatient and decide to make attack on public. Everything could be settle behind the door as long there no information leak to public. But rather than to negotiate close door, she decide to make a war drag everyone down including other 8. Now there is slim chance for jessica to back in SM after what happen.

  9. Lol ! And who exactly told you that ? Oh, you're just assuming !

    Well FYI starting a business like BLANC needs years of preparations beforehead, management skills, a huge funding and finding the right partners. I doubt just anyone have the ability to do that. SNSD can't stay alive forever you know, so I'm sure if the other members could or knew how to start a business they wouldn't have hesitated, but they probably never thought of it since they intend to continue as singers, actors, models , composers, there are many other things they can do in the entertainment industry.

    well,it might be that why SM and the girls dont believe jessica will success to juggle both between being snsd member and CEO. BLANC, because It huge business that consume lot of effort, time, and money to build up, and it very high risk, and jessica would be on a huge debt if BLANC fail. SM and the girls maybe was believe her, but they change their mind after seeing jessica struggle for juggling both. that why they decide better for kick her out so she can focus on her career.

     

    and also if SM to lenient for jessica to prioritise BLANC and start slacking on snsd activity, it will influence other member to doing the same thing, pursuing their own dream that might be clash with SNSD. dont forget that seohyun want to be diplomat, sooyoung want to study in state, tiffany want to have singing career in US, taeyeon expand their parent business and sunny is the type of people who can be CEO of entertainment company. Question is... how will SNSD be if they start to pursue those dream NOW????

  10. when i heard taeyeon said  : all i/we wanted is to protect SNSD

     

    there is 2 possibility 

    -Jessica did something cross the line that can endanger SNSD as group in the future so the member was forced to kick her

     

    -SM force SNSD member to kick her , threat them that if they didn't want to vote , SNSD will be no more, less activity .etc

     

    i bet my money for first possibility 

     

    Jessica said they kick them out without any "justifiable reason".. so what exactly is that reason ?

     

    i still think SM kick her because Jessica use SNSD name to expand her business.so with kicking her out from SNSD ,she can't use that name anymore

    for sone, jessica jung sooyeon is still SNSD jessica jung, but officially she can't use snsd name again 

     

    Jessica jung sooyeon will worth 100 times more if she puts SNSD in front of her name

    it's unfair of course, she was SNSD member for so many years and help them , contributed greatly to their success today

     

    tyler kwon is the culprit who try to gain advantage using SNSD name ( they said tyler gaining investor using snsd brand name via jessica ) this must be  violation for her contract .. brand name isn't something funny to play with 

     

    i think the only way for jessica to be back to snsd is if she abandon her business cause her business was build and grow because she used SNSD brand name and then cut her relation/contact with tyler kwon

     

     

    which is i am not sure jessica will abandon it except she can prove her love for snsd like she always said in her statement

     

    maybe this is also why taeyeon start to dislike her../ ignore her , because jessica can't focus her self more for snsd

    ..of course everyone can have , build their own future outside the group , but she will not tolerate it if it can damage snsd, yoona , sooyoung , yuri project themself as future actress,, sunny in variety, hyoyeon as dancer/  choreo and TTS continue as performer. it's all related to entertainment industry , which still has the purpose of SNSD , they are born as public figure, as entertainer..

     

    what jessica will do is really different than other.. she want to build her own ( not related to entertainment )  company using SNSD name. 

     

    you know victoria beckham ? she also develop her clothing lines.. BUT , after spice girls stop all their activity ( only reunited sometimes ) jessica renew 3 years more contract to use SNSD as tools to develop her own business.

     

    so jessica are to blame ? not really .. she dreams to have her own fashion line and that Forehead use her desire for his advantage.. brainwashed her.  maybe taeyeon start to ignorejessica when jessica start her relation with tyler kwon..

    tyler kwon probably only her business partner..taeyeon is fine if jessica want to have a boyfriend , everyone can have boyfriend including her. but she would not like if that boyfriend use her member and that member is foolish enough to be used

     

     

     

    i believe taeyeon is the guardian of snsd, the best leader. she put snsd as group , as brand , as individual , as future beyond anything else and she sacrifice herself to be hated by a lot of people after making statement on TTS fansign yesterday , she basically direct all hate to her, from haters/ public and jessica's stan

    8 member kick her out , but she is the one who gets all the blame right ? especially because of her leader position, some sone/jessica stan hate her and saying she didn't deserve to be leader because she can't keep jessica in instead kicking her out. 

     

     

    never accused taeyeon as sly fox, she is the one who suffer the most these day 

    then jessica is the wrong side ? no ,she is just innocent , innocent girl who live in this wretched world

    deep inside, every member including taeyeon are still loving jessica,they love her so much until it hurts really bad

     

     

    i will not post my thought outside snsd thread because it's useless.. there is so many non sones there who will never understand my thought , they never follow the girls to know what is the meaning of soshibond or ot9

    we have same thought..

     

    It is true that is very cruel for someone blocking other dreams. But lets not forget that in team there are individual dreams and group dreams. You have your own dream, and u must expect that your friend will support your dream, but everyone have their own dream to, and your dream is not your friend's dream, your dream can clash each other (individual or group). So sometimes we have to set our priorities. human have selfish behavior, if one member to busy with their own dream, just a matter of time they will forget their groups dream.

     

    Asumme that if jessica actually priorities blanc than SNSD, and SM make it slide and being too lenient to jessica, it might inluence other 8 to continue jessica path and start their own business (as being actrees and singer u have to share profit with SM and not last long but opening a business will be there until u die and not share profit with SM). Is not that other 8 not capable to open business, they just restrain it in order to keep snsd alive.

     

    Imagine if 9 women managing their own business, how on earth to manage their schedule so they not clash each other??? Its super difficult to assembly 9 person to practice and perform together.

     

    It would be like JYJ, ss501, and bigbang case when they need 463757289 years just to make group comeback and im sure fans will be pissed of, sone are impatient and even cant endure if snsd only have 1 month promotion per year, so how it will benefit SNSD. And if every member of snsd have establish business do you think they bother to promote with snsd again??? (Individual income without cut to SM vs share income with 9 person and SM).

     

    That why taeyeon means of protecting SNSD, if SM give free pass to jessica, they afraid if other member will follow jessica path, they busy with their on business until they not realize that their will start neglecting their group and SNSD will be disband for sure. Same like how we work on the group for presentation, if we see one of them is free rider because they to busy with their personal affair, we might be pissed off, but the bigger problem will arise when people letting this person free, other might thought "if she allow to do whatever she want, why im not doing the same???" "fuck with groups presentation, i want to do some part time job to make money, let my other member make the presentation, i will just come on presentation..!!"

     

    Jessica is not wrong, especially when she just pursue her dream, but u cant expect everything have to go in your way. especially when u have other 8 member who has their own perspective (and dream) than you

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  11. Actually, if u think about it, SM is freaking genius because they can manage 9 women with different talent, passion, and color. Even we as common people are hard to work together with our ex-clasmate when we have our own job (is hard to meet with just 4-5 people, imagine 9 people). with all hectic schedule of individual activity, SM manage to bring snsd comeback 1 a year, compare to big bang and JYJ who only have 3-5 people. SM even able to make the least popular member popular and have decent amount of side job. Beside if u look from income perspective, idol who have lot of individual activity tend to neglect their group (because of course u choose to get income that u get alone that income that u have to split into 9), there are countless case that the most popular member of group leave the group to pursue solo career *solocoughincomecough* and the group disband, while SM have the power to make them together and not neglect the group and somehow keep the group alive when the popular member leave group.

     

    So i cant imagine if snsd being manage by other company. I dont want snsd to comeback every 3 year like 2ne1, keep in dungeon like WG, or even forget their group duty like bigbang. SM is the best for snsd, whether how much hate people ti SM and how much people want snsd to leave SM.

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  12. Just pass by to give my thoughts about jessica saga. It is true that is very cruel for someone blocking other dreams. But lets not forget that in team there are individual dreams and group dreams. You have your own dream, and u must expect that your friend will support your dream, but everyone have their own dream to, and your dream is not your friend's dream, your dream can clash each other, individual or group. So sometimes we have to set our priorities. human have selfish behavior, if one member to busy with their own dream, just a matter of time they will forget their groups dream.

     

    If it true that jessica priorities blanc than SNSD, and SM make it slide, it make other 8 will continue jessica path and start their own business (as being actrees and singer u have to share profit with SM and not last long but open business will be there until u die and not share profit with SM) is not that other 8 not capable to open business, they just restrain it in order to keep snsd alive.

     

    Imagine if 9 women managing their own business, how on earth to manage their schedule so they not clash each other??? Its super difficult to assembly 9 person to practice and perform together.

     

    It would be like JYJ, ss501, and bigbang case when they need 463757289 years just to make group comeback and im sure fans will be pissed of, sone are impatient and even cant endure if snsd only have 1 month promotion per year, so how it will benefit SNSD. And if every member of snsd have establish business do you think they bother to promote with snsd again??? (Individual income without cut to SM vs share income with 9 person and SM).

     

    That why taeyeon means of protecting SNSD, if SM give free pass to jessica, other will follow jessica path and SNSD will be disband for sure.

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  13. Eh.. look on the positive side.  90% of those hate comments and downvotes have disappeared  :hurr: All those haters have wasted their time commenting.  :lol: And since now some people have had change of heart hopefully well see more positive comments and upvotes  :unsure:

    yeah.. they do the right thing, now haters can be bitter because their effort to dislike and leave negative comment are going waste LOL, and now people who still argue about hirosima can SHut the fuck off..!! (now the comment is most about how they cant sing as good as snsd and ugly compare to f(x) LOL.)

     

    3m is not a big deal..!!! with rush debut they can get in 2 day, now they have advantages because those scandal give them free publicity and more people will curious with them, i bet they will get another 5m more view in one week.

     

     

    PS: JIN, now u are more active in this thread than taeyeon thread..

  14. lot teaser = "fuck u SM, my oppa/unnies money being waste for unnecessary teaser". "SM shoving to our throat", "so unfair, this is so disrespectful to their sunbae". "SM neglect our idol and only care about XXX". so in the end they got lot of hate from their sunbae fans because their jealousy and insecurity.

     

    few teaser = "fuck u SM for not preparing their debut", "SM throw them aside just to buried other scandal" "SM not manage them well" etc, their debut will ruined but at least their sunbae fans can't scream for unfair treatment.

     

     

     

    so please choose which is better for u.. both is lose-lose situation for red velvet

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  15. Shit..!!!! I regret for watching music bank stage..!!!

     

    because its make me have to stand them. i was planning to wait them have more material before judge them properly, but the live performance make me can't resist them. Damn.. is been a years i dont see any k-pop groups without weakness member, all of them can sing and have nice voice, god at dancing and not bad at rap attempt. Everyone is all round idol, remind me of CSJH. They will be the second group i stand from debut after sistar (but i lost interest with sistar lately).

     

    i dont have bias member, wendy already captured my heart with her ost before, but in this debut, seulgi and irene ruin my bias list.

     

    Sihhh... now i will lost some of my free time, because now i have 3 fav that i sould check in daily basis, snsd, IU, and red velvet.

  16. easier my ass..!!

     

    RV also got lot of hate comming from their sunbae group fans, if u see every article and youtube video, most of the comment is about how SM should not debut RV, and take care f(x)/snsd, and how ugly RV compare to snsd and f(x), instead of actuall encouraging message to RV. so many insecure fans who affraid SM will neglect/disband their idol throwing their anger toward RV, the amount of dislike on youtube and article is insane.

     

    and they not get 12435454632 teaser from SM, aside from individual smrokkie, they only got 1 teaser, (even SNSD got more individual teaser than RV), and debut seem unpolish and out of nowhere just like shine. they dont get special treatment like everybody claim, instead they got shit treatment with rush and unpolish debut.

  17. Oh... you're here Carlos. lol. Haven't seen you in a while.  :lol:

     

     

     

     

    Kind of have to agree with you.  I don't want to talk bad about sones because I'm one myself but think a lot of them aren't seeing that they are both getting hate and not only taeyeon.  And Taeyeon is a girl so it would seem more emphasized from people's point of view.  And because there are some sones that don't like exo/baekhyun this gives them an excuse to hate on baekhyun.  And although they don't say it... probably mean enough to want them to breakup.  Really?  They are happy together and you want to make them sad?  What kind of fan is that right?  Whatever Baekhyun says or do will not change the opinions of these people.  But in a way it's good for Baek to just put it out there. He probably thought long and hard if he should say something now. Probably wasn't going to. And I would have been cool with that too.  But maybe just wanted to wipe everything clean. It's like "Ok.. there.. I put my heart out for you. You can take it or leave it.  There's not anything more I can do. I'm moving on." 

     

     

     

    hello jin..!! yeah, im on duty outside the city in terrible place with shitty internet, so cant come (or even using internet) often LOL

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