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  1. Mnet higher ups weren't arrested, but some are suspected and were booked by the police along with Ahn PD, and they haven't lost their position. So the channel at large may not be responsible, but as long as people who are suspected are still in charge it would be fair to boycott Mnet. The idols' companies can't communicate like they would want because there's just two cases really : - either they have already signed contracts with CJ/OTR/Swing and they can't get their girls/boys back until the groups disband - or for some of the X1 boys they haven't signed with Swing, but they just can't afford burning bridges with Mnet/CJ so they're waiting it out
  2. Mh at this point it's more like, Mnet is using X1 and IZ*ONE as shields, because by throwing them under the bus they just try to distance themselves from the Produce scandal, when some of their directors were directly involved in the manipulation. To be fair it's Mnet that should suffer from the scandal, advertisers not wanting to be associated with them and canceling their deals. It's the rest of the industry that should boycott the channel and stop sending their groups to MCountdown and cancel their appearance at MAMA. But no, it's the idols that have to take the brunt of the consequences, and aren't even allowed to communicate with the fans who want to support them.
  3. No love for MAMA ? The MV is all kinds of cheesy but the actual song and the singing ? A+
  4. The fans care about everyone and not just the ones who legitimately got in. And to me all of the boys deserve to have a career, but having their individual names associated with the rigging for sure will kill it. Because some agencies can just use personal bad image as an excuse to throw them under the bus, rather than make the effort to profit from their Produce popularity (something you can expect them to do if the group disbands).
  5. The director pushed the actresses to do things on camera that they clearly weren't comfortable with. Also of note, the movie is adapted from a graphic novel by an actual lesbian (who based it on her own experiences), but she didn't have any say in the way her story was adapted, and she wasn't even able to talk to the director about it once, because he downright refused to talk to her.
  6. Sad thing is, it's very hard to make a change, because all this abuse is only made possible by the awful labor laws South Korea has. And making labor laws more protective of workers isn't going to happen anytime soon because of the pressure the big conglomerates are able to put on the government. Also seeing that Western Europe has seen an erosion of workers' rights in the last couple of decades, it would be extremely surprising to have any first world economy take the opposite path... The one thing I could reasonably see happening after this, is making the signature of artists contracts illegal for minors, or at least make it so that contracts signed as a minor aren't binding once they reach adulthood.
  7. Legislative elections are supposed to happen in April, there's not enough time left to push a bill and have it actively applied. Yes he has a good shot at maintaining his majority, and that's exactly why he doesn't want to do anything unpopular at the moment. A same sex marriage discussion is bound to make him unpopular with some undecided voters who would have otherwise voted for him, so he doesn't want to risk it. Say they decide to pass the bill before the elections, and it creates enough backlash for them to lose those elections... then once the conservatives are in power, they will easily repeal it since they didn't have the time to actually apply it. If they discuss that law after winning the election, there will be plenty of time for gays & lesbians to get married before the conservatives are in power again. And then it will be much more difficult to repel since they won't be able to make those acknowledged marriages invalid. So, it's electoral talk for now. We'll see how things are in six months.
  8. I amazes me how scared of the company the parents seem to be. All of them are agreeing to sue to get their kids back, but they're so unsure the law is with them that most didn't even try to pick their kids up at the dorm. It sadly says a lot about the state of South Korean society, if a company can get away with child abuse.
  9. Iz*one wasn't signed to OTR when they debuted either. I think that as long as the members are signed with their respective agencies they're personally legally covered, the problem is mostly with where the profit from their activities would go and thus whether they're getting paid. The legal dispute if there is one is going to be between CJ/Swing and the agencies, and the idols themselves will have very little say in anything.
  10. It's not a single person that can decide to change an existing law though ? First it has to go through the legislative process and be approved by parliament. So representatives of the citizens have to approve it, and they'll only approve if they personally approve it, and/or it gives them political advantage. So as long as there's a big enough percentage of the voter base that doesn't agree to the change, they probably won't risk it, unless it's something they feel very strongly about. For example in France when they removed the death penalty from possible sentences (in 1981), a majority of the population was still in favor of it ; but the then newly elected president felt strongly about the issue, and the next elections were far away enough that the issue wouldn't influence them, so the law passed. Same sex marriage induced a lot of protests but since they came from the opposing party the government didn't listen to them (but they still had to endure weeks of useless debates at the Assembly because the opponents did everything to slow them down and make as much noise about it as possible, when there were much more important subjects to tackle). If Moon Jae In says that "society isn't ready" it' simply because he feels that if he starts this debate now, his party could lose the elections next year, meaning that conservatives would be back in power and he wouldn't be able to do anything about the issue anyway. So he's doing purely political talk to ensure his party stays in power ; mentioning women's rights in the same statement isn't innocent at all, it's there to remind his supporters that he's still a progressive and people with progressive views should still vote for him and his party even if they don't tackle every issue.
  11. People saying "it's the rigged people", I don't think so. I can totally see Wooseok and Seungwoo (legitimate winners) wanting back with their original groups, while Hangyul (suspicious member) just wants to stay away from MBK's dungeon.
  12. I only got to know Seungyoun through Produce / X1 and frankly his interactions with other guys on the show and in the group don't feel suspicious at all. Pretty certain he's at least an ally though, he's a smart guy with high emotional intelligence, who's embraced his own sensitivity (much like RM).
  13. South Korea has a lot of other steps to take before legalizing same sex marriage honestly, repelling the law that penalizes homosexuality in the army would be the first one. Also legalizing same sex marriage doesn't make homophobia disappear, and actually makes homophobic speech more present, since it becomes an item of political debate. Legalization of same sex marriage was pretty rocky in France, lots of protests despite the fact that there had already been a form of civil union available to same sex couples for years. The biggest thing with allowing same sex marriage was the new possibility to adopt children/share parental authority, and all protests focused on that part even if it wasn't the only thing that changed (for example property and inheritance don't work the same for a married couple than for a one under civil union).
  14. It's much more likely their friendship is based on their shared passion for music, since they write songs together just for fun.
  15. That's the whole point. The government wants to push for a more classic Chinese manly style and they're the ones benefiting from that. The way they've framed the more feminine looking boys as being a CIA-pushed conspiracy gave me a good laugh, but kinda shows how out of touch and misogynistic those people in power can be...
  16. People asking "Why"... Pledis is treating her well and get her work. Same case as Nu'est who also renewed their contracts earlier this year. A lot of people shit on Pledis but there's nobody who was there and said the company gave them bad living conditions, forced them to perform when injured, or mistreated them. The company is shit at managing their artists' careers and that's a major reason you wouldn't want to sign with them, but they seem to treat their trainees and artists well, something SM and YG suck at.
  17. Actually fanfiction is mostly written by people who are perfectly aware that their ship isn't real and that's why they make it real in fiction. The real delulus are the one who make shipping videos.
  18. But it will destroy the careers of the ones who got rigged in, even if they didn't do anything wrong themselves. The companies are the only ones that should be affected, but in the end it's the members of the groups that are suffering the most in this shitshow. Tbh I'd rather see the groups disband quietly than see the real rankings revealed, because it will be a lot less damaging for the members' careers.
  19. Well the Treasure Box trainees are gone at least, Jyunhao and Mahiro went to Produce under the YG banner but left right after and signed with OUI along with Seokhwa.
  20. I hope this ends with the company shutting down so the rest of the group is free to go. They have been able to get away with their shitty contracts because the victims did sign them... But hopefully the physical abuse isn't something they can get away with (for a precedent see The East Light, the producer that did it and the CEO that covered for him both were sentenced to prison in the end).
  21. Frankly for anyone who watches the show it's pretty clear that Mnet isn't involved in running it. Sure it's their IP and it's filmed in the same training center in Korea, but that's kinda the whole extent of their involvement. The cast isn't their style, the trainees aren't their style, the editing isn't their style. But yeah it's still Produce so they needed to clarify that they were doing it independently for the people who know the show is currently airing, but don't watch it.
  22. They all have side businesses though. JYPE a little less but those diversified assets is probably what saved them from bankruptcy when they lost all this money trying to push Wonder Girls in the US and didn't have any big money maker for a few years. The current Big3 have learnt from previous big agencies that relied too heavily on the success of their idols, and became irrelevant when said idols left the company. When people say that BigHit is not big3 material yet, that's why. They have bigger revenue than JYPE but they don't have diversified assets yet. They're expanding though, but seem to keep it entertainment related for now (other agencies + gaming).
  23. Yeah i'm suspecting something to do with the unsigned contracts, with CJ pressuring the agencies into taking a side.
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