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Cute things du jour: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bi_-TWkHWUu/ Hyunwoo & Jaeho holding hands leaving Mesiya <3 https://www.instagram.com/p/BiuQgiNhWSU/ Jaeho & Gyubs making a wallet or something??? a week ago http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=heartsignal2&no=154531 pics of the cast (apparently everyone was there except Hyunwoo & Jangmi) together when the first ep aired Credits~~~ https://twitter.com/__3360/status/998162756481171456?s=12 (this person in general rly)

The Dogyun/Jangmi date just seemed really mutual and balanced (I didn't actually feel like Dogyun didn't "like" her, until their conversation at dinner led him to think about Hyunjoo. They both appeared comfortable and it seemed like a pairing in which they could potentially bring out the best from each other? I don't know, we'll really have to see where either of the pairings with him go, but that's the impression I got. Yeah, Also, this is so random but I've finally remember what I've wanted to say for so long. Doesn't Daeun look so much like Jeon Somin? I've literally thought this since ep 1.

I really think Dogyun & Hyunjoo are likely the panel's favourite individual housemates, and that largely accounts for their commentary of them together (and apart, really, I think they might just be their "protagonists" in the house in general), because I actually preferred his date with Jangmi, to this first one? I'm hoping they get another, though. My heart hurt for all of the girls for some reason, even from seeing little bits of their lives, you can kind of gauge the insecurities they have and/or unhappy moments they carry. I hope the time in the house will prove beneficial and they look back at it as a happy time to be grateful for (which I'm sure they will) rather than regret or sadness if they do not turn out to match with someone inside it. Whoever ends up together (besides the obvious of Hyunwoo x Youngjoo bc I'm hoping these two are set in stone and like the baker said she turns out to be his future wife lmfao /cue the delusion) I just hope it's entirely mutual affection. Also, @comingtoyouLIVE, if I'm not mistaken,

So, do we think this is YoungJoo & friends at Mesiya or no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQIE444C-cA& (starting around the 4:15 min. mark) In the vid I'm pretty sure I hear someone ask "is that YoungJoo unnie?" and then "it's her". No clue if this is even relevant, but.......

I love Lee Sangmin so much (2nd favourite TG winner only behind Kong Jinho) & he's genuinely brilliant, but as a Heart Signal commentator............I'm seriously left to wonder if he's made to say completely out-of-left-field things to serve as a "different" voice on the panel or if he seriously has so little sense when it comes to couplings?

I think a lot of us have considered this at one point, and, really, we have no way if knowing for sure (regardless of anything that's come so far), but it's considerably unlikely imo. You have to keep in mind that the promotional material offered to us pre-show swayed us in a bit of a different direction than what actually occurred (namely, Hyunwoo x Youngjoo, that no one would've ever really guessed would be a thing from teasers/trailers), so there's really no way of telling if it's accurate, especially because they were trying to package HS in a way that would spark an interest among viewers, before really knowing who exactly the viewers would really take to? Plus, there have been people that pointed out certain things in the poster (like haircuts) match the residents at different timelines than supposedly that of post-show. What really interests me personally is who & what couplings the production team originally thought would be most popular amongst the public, because clearly editing has been affected as the show has gone on.

Like she's DEF untrustworthy and a ~ruiner of everything~ whenever girl does literally anything even somewhat related to Hyunwoo. Like it may be right for all I know but still there's nothing concrete whatsoever so? Like I honestly may be totally wrong but it just came off to me personally as looking for any existent reason to dislike her, and I've entirely bought into it too so it's not like I'm any better? Which, I mentioned, was inherently different from how most posters here try to treat Hyunjoo with understanding. It may just be me projecting & I'm not gonna look through 45 pages of a thread for receipts lmfao so you can ignore me

I guess I think there's a bit of hypocrisy in that we defend and/or empathize with Hyunjoo even if she gives reason for discussion at the least, but are so quick to jump on Daeun for almost anything, idk? I understand that it's because the former already gets her fair share of criticism and it's generally useless to add to it, but for the latter the same kind of courtesy really isn't extended. You're definitely right that this is the most level headed discussion, but it's just something I've noticed.

I've noticed (on here specifically, it's incredibly different elsewhere) there seems to be like...correct me if I'm wrong, but, like a 'treating Hyunjoo with kid-gloves' behavior, while also demonizing Daeun at any and all slightest chance? I think I've been guilty of this too, but if we're going to attempt to understand the girls without any and all criticism (which I don't think is possible, as we're only viewers with our own personal biases and dispositions) shouldn't we extend the benefit to the doubt to all of them then, or just discuss/criticize when we feel something is worthy of discussion/criticism regardless of who does it? Does that even make sense? Of course I understand why all of the girls are acting in the ways that they are -- it's not like they're purposely being awful humans -- and virtually all of them have their flaws (Youngjoo's insecurity, Daeun being seeming un-open and thus failing to gain viewers' trust, Hyunjoo's immaturity, Jangmi I really have not seen enough of in general to see anything concrete in particular), so I'm not sure empathy and criticism/discussion are mutually exclusive things.

Obviously I could be wrong, but I don't really think of the cast (individually or otherwise) frequenting Mesiya is telling of anything tbh..it's good to stay informed but if we freak out over every interaction someone has when it could literally just point to friendship is a bit? If Daeun is endgame then there should really be rules against how blatant she has been (i.e. I'm sure there are if they were a couple, lmfao)

My face is just a heart-eye emoji rn. I think there are really two couples on the show that feel "right" to me, Hyunwoo and Youngjoo, and Dogyun and Jangmi. I'll also agree with GRISHA's comment, they really do seem set, but the production team have found their cash cow so they can't let them off that easily~ We'll see what happens with the Hyunjoo car moment & maybe Daeunie's potential date. Gyubin.......ah. I really do feel for him, but he does come off as much younger, so it's kind of ...? He's five years older than me & somehow I've began to think he's younger from all the maknae talk. I really, REALLY like Jangmi. I think she seems by far the most mature of the girls and quite genuine; it doesn't seem to me as if she's in the house just to advertise her shop, if she is, she's a Daesang worthy actor lmfao. I also think if any girl had to come later than the rest, it's good that it's her because the rest would've probably gotten too intimidated. A big question mark in my head is Dogyun's imagined rivalry with Hyunwoo. I actually find it kind of hilarious because it's so cute and irrational? It's not even because of Hyunjoo, I don't think, because he's literally acted that way from the moment he showed up. Dogyun should really relax now, hopefully him and Hyunwoo's paths won't cross on the way to the endgame of couples. Jaeho and Daeun...I don't know. I actually found Daeun really cute today, but I guess I've bought into the 'stay wary of Daeun' thing because I do find myself not wanting to get too attached lmfao. It's really horrible. I think their coupling as of now does give the vibe of mostly-together-out-of-circumstance. Or maybe I get that feeling from us not really being shown too much of her interest? It seemed like she was much more direct with both Dogyun and Hyunwoo, when she had moments with them. (And then obviously crossed out Dogyun as a possibility). I think screentime might vary in the episodes on because couples are starting to settle, and I doubt HS's team would want to forgo drama or possibilities of different couplings rather than show anything too, too concrete happening between a "settled" match. But really, we're only halfway through. Things can, and likely will, get messed up. /ignore the mishmash of thoughts with no direction and forgotten grammar

What I've seen circled around a bit is that she posted something, essentially I guess out of annoyance at the hate her brother was getting & implied (again, I've never seen it or sought it out) the alone thing, but, yeah. It's all useless at this point, all we can do is wait it out & see. I seriously can't believe there are nine episodes left. Leaving hate on their instas is the oddest thing ever, like, it's their lives at the end of the day? We can criticize behavior but literally hating someone for making a decision for their own life is beyond just irrational. I really dgi, like, unless the audio is specifically manipulated, he clearly does say "I like you"?

Did anyone catch what even happened with Hyunwoo's sis's insta posts? I'm over the negative predictions/drama/etc but essentially APPARENTLY (idfk because I only saw the post wherein she said something about denying rumors that she knows anything????? I mean let's be real there's no way she doesn't know something, but anyway) there was info implying Hyunwoo could end up alone by the end of HS2 because Youngjoo stops chasing him? Ngl at this point I pretty much think they have too much between them to not at least try, regardless of pride.

Yeah, after that, I'm honestly not sure how and what exactly is supposed to happen with over half of the show still unaired....I mean, I don't want to speak rashly, but, like....he confessed? It's pretty clearly (at least as of now) mutual? The remaining stay will either be beyond shippable or beyond irritating. I really feel for Gyubin, but I'm not sure there's a real romantic half for him in the house. It really would've been Youngjoo if not for Hyunwoo, but I'm not sure if I can see any of the other girls fitting him. As for Hyunjoo, she definitely has options and should really give it a try with Dogyun, who knows, she might like him even more. I guess we can assume both Hyunjoo and Daeun will pick Hyunwoo for their date~? Yes? No? I think at least Hyunjoo might, because while there's no real evidence that the promotional footage of Daeun with Hyunwoo is an actual date (it could be a walk by the HS house for all we know lmao), the footage with Hyunjoo definitely is. We'll see, we'll see. Also, does anyone know how the show is filmed? Obviously, there's no crew in the house, but how are the actual dates filmed? I'm just thinking of how deathly awkward that Hyunwoo/Youngjoo dinner would be if there were additional people around, like, adjusting angles and zooming while one party is on the verge of tears and another is having a light mental breakdown.

So..................I'll just leave this here, lmfao. https://twitter.com/kaithect/status/994232570819706880

Yep, as I said previously, I didn't wait out the whole first season because nothing rly caught my attention so I'm speaking from a perspective that might not have seen everything that makes people ship YK/Racecar so much but it doesn't really seem like a comparable couple/situation when YK/Racecar seemed to choose each other out of necessity (aka there essentially not being anyone else that lastingly caught their attention in the house) and then did strange/immature things to keep each other's attention, whereas Hyunwoo/Youngjoo would potentially choose each other in "real life". This is going by the assumption that nothing major is scripted, which I did consider about Hyunwoo remembering Youngjoo (but then it's not like they would both fake prior jobs just to illustrate missed chances). I saw people speculating about the timeline of Hyunwoo's explanation (whether it happens the same night, or another) and I just presumed it would be another since she goes out with Gyub, but maybe it is the same night & showmakers don't want couples to solidify when there are two and a half weeks left, so....... I just rly want an exact translation of what Hyunwoo says in the kitchen with the polkadot shirt on (which actually really suits him lmfao).

Some of the comments Korean viewers are making on Youngjoo's ig are literally so adorable Generally, nothing is concrete, imo? Clearly H/Y have miscommunication issues, but I really don't understand the comparisons to YK/Racecar since imo those two were purposely playing each other a lot of the time, while H/Y is more-so mutual interest mixed with mutual insecurity? (At least that's how I view what I've seen of S1 vs S2, but I'm clearly biased). H/Y aren't just potentially a good choice for each other inside the house, like he said, she's someone he could see dating (in the real world) for a long time, not rly like the aforementioned couple. Since that hand-holding teaser is obviously Youngjoo and maybe Hyunwoo (judging by the style of coat, it's him, judging by the hands it's him or Gyubin), we'll see what happens. I would really like to see a HS couple make it outside of the show (don't rly consider YK/Jangchun that real lmfao), because then it would give it legitimacy as an actual dating show, which it tries to be, rather than the sociological experiment that it has been. But now watch some couple I h8 make it out as I've said that lmfao

Episode 7 was by far and away the most intense episode, with the most depth of emotion and sadness. So far, everyone's been pretty on-the-surface since they have had such little time to get to know each other, but the sort of mess that happened today could only have resulted from built up feelings, frustrations, and connections. The preview was especially affecting.

While I completely understand where you're coming from & the "shallow" comment might have been hasty (we'll only know if it is in retrospect, really) but for now, at least with the information we've gotten thus far, I'll stick to it, I think? In a discussion we're all going by entirely subjective opinions and can't truly judge anyone as we can't possibly know all the circumstances in the house & the lives that the contestants inside it lead, so the lens through which we see people and situations will be different/clouded by own experiences, et al. I'm not necessarily belittling Hyunjoo when I say Dogyun is "shallow" (again, for lack of a better word) for liking her, it's just that of the edited material we've watched thus far, to me personally it came across as him being fixated on a person pretty much for appearance & aegyo alone. Especially appearance. Like, I guess you could argue that the girls reacted in a similar way to Hyunwoo, but that's more about vibe (which isn't a superior reason to be attracted to someone, anyway, but, you know) and their attraction isn't blinding them from potentially considering any other guy, like Daeun was clearly interested in Hyunwoo, but at least kept her mind open for Dogyun, while he pretty much......I mean, is it too harsh to say 'got drunk and thought about Hyunjoo'? Because that's honestly how it came across for me, lmfao. I totally get that you can't help attraction, but to me it does seem to be based on factors that are fantastical rather than actual. This opinion isn't rooted in negativity towards Hyunjoo, either, and she doesn't even do anything to perpetuate Dogyun's thing for her, really, so it's a moot point. Dogyun is one of my favourite people in the house, but, to me personally, this comes across as a slight fault. What I will agree on, is that Youngoo is definitely not Serin 2.0. That situation was actually one of the reasons (besides there not being anything particularly interesting couple-wise) I stopped watching S1, because it was just...painful. Jang Chun, too, seemed shallow (much more than Dogyun, actually) in the not-considering-anyone-outside-of-a-set-"type" thing. There is a clear bias among the vast majority of viewers to be pro-Youngjoo, but, honestly, if there were any contestant that something of the sort were to happen to, at least it's her, who people feel positively towards because of the character we've been shown, the one of kindness and restraint. Hyunwoo is probably even more popular, but that's pretty much for attraction/vibe alone. Honestly, I feel like of all of the girls in the house, I "understand" Hyunjoo most, in that I see so much of myself in her, that inherently criticizing seems second nature, but, honestly, thus far, there's nothing to outright dislike at all. She's sly, sure, but not more than Daeun has come across as being. Hyunjoo's just currently the most successful at it. I think the main reason for the criticism she's gotten is because she's the third party in the "main couple" (according to public predilection) so far, so they automatically view the situation through the lens of the evil second lead in kdrama trope. If she were hooking up with with Gyubin or fighting Daeun (actually idt Daeun would even care) for Jaeho, no one would bat an eye imo. Since she seems to really like and concentrate on Hyunwoo, it's not her fault either. Idk, that's just my hypothesis~

Maybe you're right, for a guy like Hyunwoo or Jaeho who are more settled and probably have more experience with women in general, they'd perhaps tire of Hyunjoo, since they seem to moreso understand that women are people/individuals, and not really "types", unlike how Dogyun describes Hyunjoo (bright)? The bright, happy, pretty act is pretty much no-fail in getting someone's interest, but keeping it really requires the girl clicking with the guy, rather than constantly having to be something for someone and expect that 'type' or character or quality from them, if that makes sense at all. I really do currently have a steady preference for Hyunwoo/Youngjoo, and unless something drastic happens (like a sign of disinterest or it gradually withering into a slow death), I can't see that changing much. That being said, I do think there's something there with Dogyun & Youngjoo. I suppose it could just be kinship/genuine friendship, but, in a real-life situation rather than the contrived one set up by producers and cameras for the housemates, Dogyun would eventually likely develop or realize romantic interest in Youngjoo. I mean, she's already the girl he "likes" most as a person (while his interest in Hyunjoo somewhat seems like projecting a fantasy onto her/who he thinks she is, rather than who he knows her to be). Or maybe I'm just projecting because I just saw this lmfao https://www.instagram.com/p/BiBrwK7hGey/?taken-by=channela_insta Anyways, I'm still trying to understand the promotional material, which is strangely throwing me off. Based on the editing, showmakers knew the popular ship would be Hyunwoo/Youngjoo, but Dogyun/Jangmi are the largest and in center of the main poster, and the trailers and teasers point to the exact same couples as seated in it. Maybe literally none of this is relevant and I'm just a Reply series fan that tries to find odd clues in similar things, I don't know, but it's strange when S1's promo material (namely posters) was pretty accurate in ~spoiling the big final couple.

It really is so hard not to jump on the Hyunwoo/Youngjoo bandwagon completely because they really do seem like they're made out to be the main couple in a drama~ but then you realize we're not even halfway through, it's way too early for 'set' relationships, there's tons of material to indicate they will both see other people during the show, & also suspicious things like the insta egg sandwiches, promo poster, looming presence of Daeun and Hyunjoo...This is actually a new situation for me with this show because I stopped watching S1 not out of frustration, but disinterest? Racecar & YK were tolerably cute but nothing that really stirred me enough to be the main couple of a dating show (also they seemed more like a couple out of circumstance rather than initial interest, idk), and there was pretty much no one else besides them couple-wise to rival, so S2 is proving to be surprisingly refreshing with a cast that really meshes friendship-wise and romantically, even if some can be irritating individually. Also, re: Dogyun: I get the feeling he's not really someone to date (or even consider) outside of a specific type, so his one fault I've felt (which could really just be subjective) is slight shallowness kind of unbecoming of who he appears to be. But tbh if this were a longterm project like Terrace House, I'm sure 3/4 of the guys would all at least temporarily have a thing for Youngjoo, because while she's not really someone who captivates from the start, she does so with time through her girl-next-door thing (i.e. her being the only girl that could permanently break through the wall Dogyun puts up around everyone). I think the most utterly random combinations, like Daeun with Gyubin or Youngjoo with Jaeho would be hilariously interesting (or maybe just uncomfortable, in the case of the latter?) to watch. I really want Dogyun to have one date with Youngjoo and at least one with Hyunjoo, just out of plain curiosity of how he'd act, then he's free to be with Jangmi, which I'm actually lowkey excited for, they seem cute even from initial snippets of interaction. Gyubinnie would be hard to take seriously with anyone besides Youngjoo, really, although I'm sure he'd try his best with anyone; I really don't think he'll pine away for Youngjoo for the entirety of the show, but just like the psychologist said, I wouldn't mind it if he did. Hyunwoo I just wouldn't really like to see with anyone besides Youngjoo, at least for now, seeing him with the others tends to send a really irrational jealousy signal in my brain lmfao (even though I get it's impossible and who knows what'll transpire~~). Jaeho...I honestly have no clue. He, along with Daeun probably, are the ones I've had least interest in in the last six episodes so it's convenient they've been paired off together, but it's a bit of a blank for me because I don't even understand why they're paired off, really? To me, Daeun doesn't particularly seem interested at all, rather just going along with it because she hasn't gotten the chance to try out anyone else, besides Dogyun, who was way into too obviously into Hyunjoo? Hyunjoo could potentially suit Jaeho, actually, but I think the combination of Hyunwoo being the most popular and her catching feelings during the Christmas date could linger for a while. I really wonder if she'll actively pine for him or give up if she feels her opponent is in too deep with Grass oppa~~ for her to have a chance.

I cautiously ship Hyunwoo/Youngjoo (#cautiously because of how much could actually still go wrong), but seeing as so far they're really the main ship of the season, all of the promotional material that didn't even hint at them being a possibility is truly confusing me? I know the probability of an actual couple to come out of a months' stay at a house with strangers is slim to none, but, tbh, at least going by the episodes we've seen, how are we not supposed to ship them? So here comes the worry of what could go wrong, and what definitely does, considering they do both drift apart enough at least to date other people? Maybe it's Youngjoo in general, because I see sparks between her and every single one of the guys, except for Jaeho? Like such sweet, truly lovely potential with Gyubin (who I'd personally probably date if I were one of the contestants), a really strange kind of connection between her and Dogyun (I actually think she could maybe be the best longterm match for him in the house, although it'll seriously never happen because she doesn't seem like his type physically and thus he's never even considered it, and he's too close with Gyu for that to ever change), but with the addition of a Hyunwoo/Youngjoo backstory, the commentators' theories and Hyunwoo's STARES, it really makes them seem like it's the rarity of legit fate in a dating show. Ah. Does anyone have any serious predictions/gut feelings (I'm super bad at those so I wouldn't even try) for the end matches, or is it still too early to think about that?