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which is why theres nothing wrong with speculating about them and suggesting different possibilities. is there some rule that we can't do that in case it upsets fans of each idol? years ago before taehyung had any receipts of him possibly being lgbt, i was fully aware of the possibility that he might be homophobic, i dont know why just the suggestion of this as being possible is so contentious to people. i never claimed to know anyone

you're right that it's logical for fans of jennie to be upset at the possibility, but it's also logical that it's a possibility. that's all i'm trying to send home here, she may not be okay with taehyung being bisexual if she's straight because most straight women aren't, like the vast majority, there have been studies about this and straight women have a clear bias against bisexual men. i dont think its projection to acknowledge that reality and i don't think we should all suspend disbelief and ignore it in order to not upset jennie fans any more than we should with literally any kpop idol. i feel like continuously ignoring this is really dismissive of biphobia more than anything to do with jennie in and of herself and it wish people could really hear me out on that front instead of getting indignant and jumping to "you clearly hate jennie, how dare you, you're over-emotional"

do you know how many straight girls would be the first to say "love is love" and then treat you like you have aids if you reveal to them you're bi while dating them? this is proof enough. saying the entire post is bullshit just because people who like jennie dont like the thought her possibly being homophobic is microaggressive as all hell let me make this clear, again, because people keep ignoring this: i have never once claimed to know her or any of them, none of us do, she might be the greatest ally in the world, i dont fucking know.

you literally said you werent going to read the entire paragraph i wrote explaining myself, and now you're just deciding this is a hate boner, when i brought up very real points about struggling with biphobia. so i'll say it again, do you know how hard it is as a bi man to date straight women? the chances of them genuinely being accepting and not flagrantly hateful of your sexuality is next to nil. this is why i think it'd be surprising if jennie is totally fine with it

again, not sure why everyone here absolutely jumps to conclusions, its like people dont read what others actually type. i never labelled her as a known homophobe, i said she SEEMS like she COULD be. thats all also why do people have feelings about that possibility, for any idol for that matter, in the first place?

ive seen people on all sides of this get clowned, people who think its real, people who are critical of the edits have both gotten clowned. there isnt a way to be objective about a schrödinger relationship, we dont have enough hard info

you're right, it's physically impossible for any kpop idol to possibly be homophobic, homophobia has been eradicated in kpop

nothing wrong with people saying it doesnt make sense, we're all entitled to that here, it goes both ways. but people were acting like i was saying something sacrilegious and outrageous, it was silly. people dont want to consider that their fav might not be the worlds biggest gay ally just because they put some rainbow emojis in their insta bio, for that matter this goes for taehyung too and all of bts and every single kpop idol out there. we dont really know them. hence speculation. why even engage then

what world are you living in where you think suggesting a straight woman could be bi/homophobic is unreasonable? idk your sexuality or gender, but do you know how difficult it is to interact with straight girls romantically in any capacity if you're a bi man? and that's in western culture, without even considering how much harder it could be in a conservative culture. the vast vast majority of straight women are totally and utterly repulsed by the idea of a man being bi or having previously been with another man, im speaking from personal experience here and from statistics and other bi peoples experiences i know. its so hard. i feel like people are indignant that i dare suggest jennie COULD be homophobic, because it seems really presumptuous and because they really like jennie. but ive made it clear im speculating and i dont actually know her, its just a suggestion. on top of that, nobody here is any better in acting like its an outrageous notion that she may be, just like i dont know her, you also dont know her, we dont know if she is or isnt. and its a lot more likely that a straight woman probably wont be super down with their boyfriend being into men. i totally understand disagreeing with me, but acting like im being absurd for suggesting a straight person may be homophobic feels microaggressive to the actual struggles of being a bi man trying to have a relationship or sleep with a straight woman, ive literally seen people say they refuse to sleep with bi men because they will get hiv. "that was just the “vibe” you got so it’s totally valid right?" this proves my point about people jumping to conclusions, no, i never said "because i have a vibe this is 100% certain and totally valid" all i said was that it was a vibe lmao, i just said "its a feeling i get" thats all. people hugely overreacted because they like jennie. apparently if you say something negative about her may be possible that's utterly presumptuous, but if you do the exact same thing inverted and say something positive about her might be possible, well that is completely concrete and undeniable, right? in my experience straight people tend to disappoint, i think a lot of people in both threads mistook by cynicism towards hetnorm society and straight people as personal bitterness that taehyung is dating a woman

god forbid

you literally cant say anything in these threads without people taking your conjectural thoughts and reshaping them into concrete facts. im never claiming to know anything for certain, im just wondering shit. half the stuff that people have quoted of me have been people jumping to conclusions off of me saying things like "it seems, it appears, i think" and replying with well saying xyz is clearly wrong, yeah cause i never said it, it was just a suggestion.

i mean, are we allowed to speculate about them or not? of course none of us know how any of them are irl. to say i dont like jennie for unfounded reasons is no better than claiming jennie is a wonderful person when you dont know that any better than i do. thats why its all speculation. and she comes across as a really odd combo with tae

who knows, for all i know they could and they could get along better than anyone in the world, im aware of that lmao. but this is a speculative thread on onehallyu, so im speculating that they dont come across that way, just like people speculation about kpop idols sexualities and pretty much every other thing under the sun about them. im just suggesting that this is an impression i get and it leaves me puzzled, not claiming im psychic and am certain they are this way

"People can still be mismatched af and really better off not dating." people rooting for them are being entirely superficial because taehyung and jennie combo personality wise is one of the strangest and most jarring combinations ive seen, idk what they would talk about together or how they would get along. i guess ill prepare for more negs from the jennie brigade now

im specifically talking about their case because of their skinship, not saying across the board that korean men and women are incapable of being friends. im specifically saying that after taehyung and jennie have photos together that show them enaging in skinship, i subsequently think it's unlikely that within the context of korean society they would be perceived as just friends

i get all of this but thats not what i was saying, im saying that the pics of taehyung specifically holding her hand and putting his face right by her forehead dont imply friendly skinship in korea, definitely not impossible at all, just unlikely i get your point, i think it could go either way with them really and i can't tell where they stand on that front

"i've only recently engaged in kpop fandom, largely because the reputation the fans have really put me off. i know korean culture is quite conservative and idol culture itself is gender-segregated, but the way some folks have reacted to this has honestly been a bit mind-blowing." you're talking like you don't know that korean culture is conservative and gender-segregated. i definitely agree with what you're saying in principle, but to apply it to this situation it becomes less realistic. imo i wasnt super convinced they absolutely had to be dating until i saw the taehyung smiling into her forehead pic at the zoo and the one with them holding hands - mind you, the latter pic is cropped and you can't see the man's face, so there's a slim chance it isn't him. i can't see why anyone would act that way around a woman in conservative korean society, reminds me of people saying jungkook could've just been friends with tattoo girl, of course he could have but what seems more likely? platonic skinship between men and women is hardly a thing much in western culture, people with archaic mindsets still say men and women can't be friends (which is bullshit but im pointing out how some people still think), let alone in korean culture. i would say mlm & wlw solidarity if jennie had a single non-straight bone in her body but alas. it just seems unlikely atp to say jennie and taehyung are just buds, if it were only the first couple leaks maybe. "who's to say that's reserved for just bts and wooga squad and he's not like that with everyone?" cause jennie is a woman. before people jump at me for being hetnorm, take it up with society.

is this grasping at straws

this acc is priv now, what was in the tweets?

apparently op didnt recognise bogum but others claimed he was with him im amazed how intense people are about this damn cap, it's just a hat and people are acting like it's a sex tape leak

in straight world it's not possible for more than one person to own a white cap, they're so rare you see

the plot thickens

what about all of the other pics though?

its weird that every single pic involves them being cut out to some degree though

it is possible but these pics look blatantly edited. for the taennie pics to all be edited that's some absolutely flawless photoshop work, even the ones that look odd. honestly deepfake seems more likely to me if they're legit edited