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  1. Yeah, but one thing is stuff to boost his popularity and another saying that they manipulated the votes to make him #5, when his popularity has been clearly increasing in the last month. I follow some tumblr/twitter accounts and lots of them are Yanjun biased so it's not like he was a "nugu" contestant that suddenly rose. I don't see his case any different from J*sung, W*ojin or S*ngwoon tbh.

    He is a Taiwanese and appeared to be tight with Chen Linong lately. Maybe the Taiwanese people just get free votes from the supermarkets that supply Nongfu spring vitamin water, after all it will not be useful after idol producer.

     

    On a side note, I am actually happy with the selected group in NINE PERCENT  as they have

    1. Zhu Zhengteng as lead dancer cum dance mentor and choreographer

    2. You Zhangjing as lead vocal cum vocal mentor and song arranger

    3. Cai Xukun as a great center.

     

    Even though the group have more rappers than vocalists it will be okay as the new songs sung in the idol producer are mostly of hip hop type than the pop type and hence with one power vocalist it is enough and others are adaptable as they show in the song 'Forever'.

     

    I hope this group can strive forward leaving all the controversy of suspected nepotism and votes manipulation behind and helped partly fulfilled LAY's dream to bring Chinese music into the international scene.

    CPOP FIGHTING.

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  2. i just want to say that i feel rlly bad for trainees who don't get cheers when they introduce themselves and when the performance is over rlytearpls.png like in 24k/havana group everyone got a little bit of cheering except for he dongdong and i hoped that it was just iqiyi blocking it off but lately he seemed so sad and compared to episode 1 he really dropped and changed so much. and in agent j too, it happened the same with yu mingjun.

     

    also it's obvi that cln is super popular but the ending chant for "quit smoking" is literally chen linong and even when you zhangjing was singing there were still fans screaming chen linong ; _ ; i srsly am wondering why iqiyi didn't block off the fanchants bc if this was a hype song then the fans screaming would be tolerable but this is supposed to be a slow ballad song and it just killed the mood??? like arghh i don't get me wrong because i love nongnong too and i'm all for cheering for your bias to hype them up and let them know that you're there to support them but fans need to find the right timing... the fans could've at least waited until the performance was done T____________T

    Just show the fans have no respect for the singers and others who want to listen to the song. Even though we get to see their individual cams where we can listen to the song, I prefer I can listen and watch the whole group performing. If this is what happen in the live broadcast, how can people judge the performance.

  3. So Yixing called out iqiyi on weibo for not properly crediting him on his song and they issued an apology

     

    I'm smh apparently this is like the 3rd time it's happened 

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    In terms of today's ep

     

    -Cheng Xiao and Jieqiong were so sweet and aw, it was nice to see them bonding and playing games with the guys like mafia, lol when Cheng Xiao said that Qin Fen was old style -> I did wish that some of the guys in Agent J got more screentime, not just Chengcheng

    - MC Jin's group was acc really good I liked how cohesive they were as a unit, and bc they all got one indv part no one overshone anyone else

    I wish they had turned off the fans in the audience during Quit Smoking bc even though it would've been artificial, they were so annoying and kind of ruined the song and the atmosphere for me

    -the Mask team were so cute in their fanboying + Yixing is such a great teacher how he took the time to show perfect each and every move -> Yixing kind of overpowered them though, he's so good that I kind of focused on him more than the others

    -Nongnong rapping????????????

     

    I'm so sad we only have one more left

    Just show that Zhang Yixing is at a very much higher level than the trainees with Cai Xukun slightly better. In fact I felt Zhang Yixing New Year performance of the Mask was much better.

  4. Right now, this is my dream top 9 based on the top 20. 

     

    You Zhangjing

    Jeffrey

    Bi Wenjun

    Lin Chaoze

    Wang Ziyi

    Huba Zhu Xingjie

    Xiao Gui 

    Cai Xukun

    Lin Yanjun

     

    But I know it's almost impossible with the popularity surrounding the rappers. 

    I do hope that the final nine will have at least 3 stable singers and Chaoze because honestly, their dancing would be so good with him in the group. 

     

    Also, I can't wait to see the final groups for the debut evaluation songs. 

    Really looking forward to It's Okay. A song that fits Zhangjing well hurrplz.png

    I hope he will be the lead vocal. If he was main vocal for the song I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER I think he would be able to bring the song to a higher level. I feel Han Mubo did not do justice to being the center for the song.

    Right now, this is my dream top 9 based on the top 20. 

     

    You Zhangjing

    Jeffrey

    Bi Wenjun

    Lin Chaoze

    Wang Ziyi

    Huba Zhu Xingjie

    Xiao Gui 

    Cai Xukun

    Lin Yanjun

     

    But I know it's almost impossible with the popularity surrounding the rappers. 

    I do hope that the final nine will have at least 3 stable singers and Chaoze because honestly, their dancing would be so good with him in the group. 

     

    Also, I can't wait to see the final groups for the debut evaluation songs. 

    Really looking forward to It's Okay. A song that fits Zhangjing well hurrplz.png

    I hope he will be the lead vocal. If he was main vocal for the song I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER I think he would be able to bring the song to a higher level. I feel Han Mubo did not do justice to being the center for the song.

  5. GOSHHHHH <3

     

    They are both so squishy in this art <3 

     

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    So in terms of vocals in the Top 9, Zhangjing for sure is my pick. He may prefer ballad-y songs but his first perf (audition with the Banana trainees) shows he can shine in a group setting as well. I honestly want Ruibin as well, because out of the Top 20, I think his voice best complements Zhangjing, plus it's a pretty strong voice of its own. But Ruibin's rank... :(

     

    I mentioned this when I watched the ep last week, but I think Zhenghao is a great vocalist, but not necessarily the best to be in a group because his vocal tone and colour is quite different from that which a boygroup is expected to have. That being said, out of all the vocalists not in the Top 9, by rank alone he's the most likely to get into the Top 9 lol. 

    Nothing is set in stone. All is dependent on the final performance which is said to be broadcasted live.

  6. If they are going to use a concept that fits the majority of top9 YZJ is a little question mark then, i realized that he has always did ballads and slow songs, wonder how he is on a song like "listen to what i say"

    It would not be a problem for him. You can hear him sing a few lines like firewalking off stage.

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    First of all, it is not supposed preferential treatment/screen time, it is confirmed preferential treatment/screen time. There is no way you can even dispute that.
     
    If you are talking about Cai Xukun, YH, Xiao Gui, Banana Trainees getting more screentime than others, it is because they have worked very hard to established themselves in past where they didn't get preferential treatment from the start.
     
    Speaking of well connected agencies, I hope you know that Idol Producer's final 9 will NOT be produced by Iqiyi's team, it will be produced by Ge Fu Hong. She have produced "Lolipop F" and "Hey Girls". Chen Linong's manager, Andy Chan was the head supervisor for "Lolipop F" and "He Girls".
     
    The reason why he is getting getting this level of complaint is that he have the best connected agency.
     
    You are speaking as if Iqiyi don't suppress other people's performance like Yang Feitong's high notes got 100% edited out the show, Zheng Ruibin's epic first evaluation that displayed powerful vocals + clean dancing but only 3 seconds from Iqiyi, 
     
    The Qin's Empire performance got edited down to a few seconds as well. Lots of people didn't even have the scenes where judges give them comment on their performance and did quick flashforward.
     
    Like you are writing as if you DON'T FEEL BAD AT ALL.

     

    'Nobody is born successful. We have to make it step by step. Don't let people notice your talents through any short cuts or any concerns. Stand out with your own brilliant talent.' The screen then turn to Chen Linong nodding in agreement.

    This is part of Jeffrey's speech and this clearly suggest that the trainees know the special treatment allotted to Chen Linong from the start go and he feels he and most of the trainees with little screen time given are treated unfairly. He is a Taiwanese and even though he has the ever popular Jackie Chan as his uncle and Ling Fongchiao (a popular Taiwanese actress during her heydays) as his aunt he did not ask help from them.

    This was what I had posted earlier, i.e. why must CLN be allowed to queue jump ahead of people who had put in many years of hard work.Remember the image of an idol must be clean and even though he is a cute 17 year old kid, he is linked with a company employing dirty tactics to get him there.

    It is also one of the reasons he did not make many friends initially, but people get to realize the fault lies mainly with his company. People are asked to get behind him especially Cai Xukun who is involved in a legal fight with another unscrupulous company, and probably Banana trainees guys who is a group with a few Taiwanese guys and the others follow suit.

    Nobody is bigger than the show and the image of the group and I am sure IQIYI and China know that.

    He should be voted out of the show, if not the show will be discredited for showing nepotism and this will discourage people from participating in the future.

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  8. I can't see them performing on any Mnet music show, considering Mnet have come out to poo-poo this production as a rip-off. But that doesn't mean the final 9 won't tour there i.e. have a fanmeet/showcase, considering the show seems to have a following in Korea. I can see them doing some fanmeets/showcases outside China, given that IQIYI has been very 'ifans' friendly when promoting this show, including allowing ifans to vote. 

     

    To be honest, this show/F9 do not need Korea to survive. I know some KPOP fans want to see F9 promoting/succeeding there, but China is a big enough market as it is - that and throw in some international fanmeets/showcases, I think IQIYI should be very happy with the result/outcome of IP. So far, I think it's safe to say that the show has been an success. What happens from here on out will determine how much of success it is. 

     

     

    IQIYI may have given him a helpful push, but to his merit, CLN has been able to grow and maintain his fanbase. 

    If he didn't have any draw power, he would have flopped no matter how much preferential treatment/screen time he got. 

     

    He is likeable, has appeal and has decent vocals, hence why he continues to consistently rank in the TOP 9, despite the haters trying hard to drag him down. 

     

    People can cry all they want....but this is what you'll get from an idol survival show. The extremely talented trainees or the ones who trained the longest, don't necessarily make it to the end. It's just reality and life is not fair. Build a bridge and move on.

    He will most probably be voted out of the show if not the show will be discredited for showing nepotism and this will discourage people from participating in the future. Remember the image of an idol must be clean and even though he is a cute 17 year old kid, he is linked with a company employing dirty tactics to get him there. It is also one of the reasons he did not make many friends initially, but people get to realize the fault lies mainly with his company.

    People are asked to get behind him especially Cai Xukun who is involved in a legal fight with another unscrupulous company, and probably Banana trainees guys who is a group with a few Taiwanese guys and the others follow suit.

    Nobody is bigger than the show and the image of the group and I am sure IQIYI and China know that.

    If we have Produce 101 season 2  to go by voting wise, the final votes will only be based on the live audience. This selected audience will hopefully have vocal and dance academic background and if they having been selected as citizen producers would have followed the last few episodes. Also eliminated trainees will be asked to perform E.I.E.I. with the remaining 20 trainees and may become citizen producers as well. Going by Produce 101 the 20 trainees will also perform together and I guess it will be the song Wings of my Words the same song the 21 trainees did in HAPPY CAMP.

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  9. Griffyndor - Bu Fan, Fan Chengcheng, Qin Fen, Zhu Xingjie, Dong Yanlei, Ding Zeren, Xiao Gui

     

    Ravenclaw- Yue Yue, Zheng Ruibin, Zhu Zhengting, Zhou Rui, Mu Ziyang, Bi Wenjun, Han Mubo

     

    Hufflepuff- Wang Ziyi, Cai Xukun, Qian Zhenghao, Li Quanzhe, He Dongdong, Huang Xinchun, Zuo Ye

     

    Slytherin-Lin Yanjun, You Zhangjing, Chen Linong, Lu Dinghao, Lin Chaoze, Justin, Jeffrey, Ling Chao

     

    Lol don't ask me why

    I do not know about others but You Zhangjing should be in Griffyndor. He looks like HARRY POTTER.

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  10. Ya'll, I'm so nervous about 1 pick

    'Nobody is born successful. We have to make it step by step. Don't let people notice your talents through any short cuts or any concerns. Stand out with your own brilliant talent.'

    This is part of Jeffrey's speech and this clearly suggest that the trainees know the special treatment allotted to Chen Linong from the start go and he feels he and most of the trainees with little screen time given are treated unfairly. He is a Taiwanese and even though he has the ever popular Jackie Chan as his uncle and Ling Fongchiao (a popular Taiwanese actress during her heydays) as his aunt he did not ask help from them.

    This was what I had posted earlier, i.e. why must CLN be allowed to queue jump ahead of people who had put in many years of hard work. I hope the final results in the show would not get discredited because of this and not discourage people to participate in the future.

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  11. I believe Li xikan is in the Team B. I saw pictures of him wearing white tracksuit like the rest of team B. I'm guessing zhenghao must be in Team A then but I'm not sure.

     

    I believe Li xikan is in the Team B. I saw pictures of him wearing white tracksuit like the rest of team B. I'm guessing zhenghao must be in Team A then but I'm not sure.

     

    I believe Li xikan is in the Team B. I saw pictures of him wearing white tracksuit like the rest of team B. I'm guessing zhenghao must be in Team A then but I'm not sure.

    Thanks for your input and if Li Xikan is in Team B, then QZH (10) would be in Team A as all the team vocal position 1 to 7 would have been filled and he would not go for the main vocal as if he did not have the voice for it and he would be pushed to a rap position by YZJ (8).

    My revised speculation would be

     

    TEAM A  MACK DADDY

    RAPPERS          Wang Ziyi, Fan Chengcheng and Bu Fan

    MAIN VOCALS   Cai Xukun

    VOCALS             Zhu Zhengteng, Zhu Xingjie, Li Xikan, Xu Shengen, Chen Linong and Qin Fen

     

    TEAM B  ITS OKAY

    RAPPERS          Justin and Xiao Gui

    MAIN VOCALS   You Zhangjing

    VOCALS             Zheng Ruibin, Ling Chao, Li Yanjun, Lin Chaoze, Li Xikan, Jeffrey, Bi Wenjin

     

    I believe this is how the voting go.

    ZRB (20) TEAM B VOCAL, XSG (19) TEAM A VOCAL, LXK (18) TEAM B VOCAL, QF (17) TEAM A VOCAL,

    JEFF (16) TEAM B VOCAL, LCZ (15) TEAM B VOCAL, ZXJ (14) TEAM A VOCAL, LC (13) TEAM B VOCAL,

    BWJ (12) TEAM B VOCAL, LYJ (11) TEAM B VOCAL, QZH (10) TEAM A VOCAL, BF (9) TEAM A RAP,

    YZJ (8) TEAM B MAIN VOCAL, ZZT (7) TEAM A VOCAL, XG (6) TEAM B VOCAL, WZY (5) TEAM A RAP,

    JUSTIN (4) TEAM B RAP, FCC (3), CLN (2) TEAM A VOCAL, CXK (1) TEAM A MAIN VOCAL.

     

    My rationale is TEAM B will have the vocal team filled by reasonably good vocalist and both LCZ and LYJ will pick this group as YZJ has voiced his opinion when asked by LAY.

    Vocalist with no power and the lower ranked rappers will take TEAM A and choose a song that is not vocally demanding i.e. MACK DADDY so that even if they are bumped down to vocals they can handle it.

    XG and JUSTIN may have opted for TEAM B RAP position as they do not want to bump people off.

    CXK opted for main vocals as he do not want to pk WZY for rap position and if he was to make a choice of bumping off WZY or main vocals he would bump off the main vocals.

  12. My Speculation

     

    TEAM A  MACK DADDY

    RAPPERS          Wang Ziyi, Qin Fen and Fan Chengcheng

    MAIN VOCALS   Cai Xukun

    VOCALS             Zhu Zhengteng, Zhu Xingjie, Li Xikan, Xu Shengen, Chen Linong and Bi Wenjun

     

    TEAM B  ITS OKAY

    RAPPERS          Justin, Xiao Gui

    MAIN VOCALS   You Zhangjing

    VOCALS             Zheng Ruibin, Ling Chao, Li Yanjun, Lin Chaoze, Qian Zhenhao, Jeffrey, Bu Fan

     

    If we are to go by preview of episode 11 and trainees interaction my revised speculation would be

     

    TEAM A  MACK DADDY

    RAPPERS          Wang Ziyi, Fan Chengcheng and Bu Fan

    MAIN VOCALS   Cai Xukun

    VOCALS             Zhu Zhengteng, Zhu Xingjie, Li Xikan, Xu Shengen, Chen Linong and Qin Fen

     

    TEAM B  ITS OKAY

    RAPPERS          Justin and Xiao Gui

    MAIN VOCALS   You Zhangjing

    VOCALS             Zheng Ruibin, Ling Chao, Li Yanjun, Lin Chaoze, Qian Zhenhao, Jeffrey, Bi Wenjin

  13. If you wanted to promote C pop, do it in a positive & constructive way by translating info and sharing fan material instead arguing with fangirls. Do you find this entertaining? What kick do you get from constantly repeating the same argument and sending all these block texts? No one cares as much as you about this issue here, we saw it and we moved on. You say you support Zhu Xingjie, Yang Feitong etc because you think they are underrated but when have you actually posted about their stuff? You literally made this account just to repeat Zenist. 

    Again I stressed I am not an anti-Chen Linong fan. I am more worried on the show being viewed as unfair with nepotism in play and its a show in which LAY is the PD. I am digesting the views of others with open mind. I did not say I support Zhu Xingjie or Yang Feitong because I dont. For vocals, I support You Zhangjing and for all rounder I support Cai Xukun.

    I am sure with fair competition Chen Linong will still make it to the top 20, and the show should create that in the event when the competitors are in the top 20 there should be a fight for main vocal, main dancer and main rapper and main potential picked by the trainees.

    I read somewhere that in PD101 season 2 they actually have 11 out of 18 debuting, so for idol producer 12 out of 20 to debut should be okay. Beside the above 4, of course the rest would then be the top 8 ranked. As long as they are in the top 20 I deemed they are popular enough to debut and to make the group better.

    And I read somewhere that KFC have come out as a co-sponsor and the top 3 will be doing its adverts.

    You Zhangjing, Zhu Zhengteng and Cai Xukun/ Fan Chengcheng would really be suitable candidates and they have been promoted as great eaters in the show.

    The show is coming to an end, and we should think how the show can improve such as whether the mentors have done enough and whether the show has done enough to make it legit else people may not want to participate if you try to kill off competition from the start go. Take for example Qian Zhenhao who is there by merit, setting up pk for position of idol with potential.

    Honestly I do not know how idol with potential to be selected to debut with the others by which method is deemed fair other  then pk for this position for the youngest 2 trainees in the top 20.

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  14. I feel like this is not very surprising anymore. I wonder who he was trying to save this time. rlytearpls.png  Either way, I am more excited to hear his vocals than him rapping again.

    I  am sure he is trying to choose a different position from Wang Ziyi and I am sure there is a pk round this time for positions within the group, and he do not want to meet Wang Ziyi in the pk round.

  15. Idk looking at how ZZT has dropped and BWJ has risen so much I can see it happening. ZZT's hype has been dying out while BWJ's hype has been rising so...The only one from YH that I see almost 100% secure at this point is FCC. He's been sitting in that #3 for ages now.

    You should see the rankings at episode 2 & 3, the order of rankings for Yuehua boys have always been FCC, Justin, ZZT followed by BWJ /DZR and HXC than LQZ. LQZ shot up in rankings only from ep 5. With votes being reset and only 2 pick it go back to the natural order. They have already sacrificed DZR so I dont think they will sacifice ZZT the next time around.

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    I'm the only one that can see Bi Wenjun rising to the top 9 and knocking ZZT? I have a strong gut feeling idk

     

    There is no way a vocal is taking over a lead dancer place. More over You Zhangjing should be ahead of him for the main vocalist position, and there are better vocalist then him in the competition. The people from Yuehua will definitely advise the 2 pick turning into 1 pick to pick ZZT rather than BWJ to at least ensure ZZT is in.

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  17. It is a bit worrysome honestly. I think there is some chance they will pull a PD101 and in the finale 2 vocal will enter the team in the òast round. 

    but I also understand the picks, I mean the rappers are the most famous of the competition RN.

     

     

     

    ZZT fall is really really worrisome.

     

     

    I am a huge ZZT fan but I had a feeling yuehua boys could become the second Nu'est. 3 in the top 9 is not easy especially when the 1 pick will occurr.

    I foresee some possible scenarios

     

     

     

    1 fan cheng cheng stable ranking will ensure him to be the one to survive out of 3" 

     

    2 Fan cheng cheng has the favour of the public because of the sister and the visual but will drop in favour of Justin who has a more stable fanbase (unlikely since 3rd rank can also be a sign of a

                                                               huge fanbase"

    3 Justin is the one who makes/ FCC justin both pull through  

    the one pick will be the gamechanger, especially for what concerns banana and yuehua. 

     

    I seriously hope my guess is wrong and the 3 of them end up in the top 3 (for my preference at least ZhuZhengting) T.T

     

     

    I back Zhu Zhengteng to be the main dancer cum dance choreographer of the final group.

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    okay honestly though....

    since most of you guys watched p101s2....

    there will be a main vocalist no?

    because the last or final line up depends on the live voting right?

    and not online?

     

    anyways, some are feeling.. down.

    here's Huba reading his letter time in gifset. :D

     

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    Xingjie Reading Fan Letters:
    A Summary

     

     

    If so, why do they ask people to vote again but only 1 pick.

  19. ​Yanchen #21...Why?

    He was in my top 3

     

     

     

     

    And zzt's drop in ranks is worrying..I hope he makes it to the final 9

    It's 2 pick now, and I think they started from scratch again. I think they will again start from scratch from today with 1 pick. I am backing zzt to be the lead dancer/ choreographer.

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