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  1. I don't think anyone said that they're anti-YZJ and pro-Tangram, but the same that LYJ had his very own birthday party for himself and his fans, YZJ deserves the same, not performing only 3 songs on his very own bday party while Tangram performed 5. Idk why that's so difficult to understand? Literally nobody is blaming Tangram or denying they're like family for YZJ, but he should be able to be the protagonist in his own bday party, not performing even less song than a "guest" group.

    I do not even believe that they will have tangram perform 5 songs on their own without YZJ & LYJ as in Xiao Gui's birthday party Xiao Gui performed a song with his guest Xu Shengen.

    For the moment it is unclear what was in the program they planned originally if no official program is printed out for the occasion and I am treating what's on Weibo as only heresay.

    With the present mess they created they should have an official program printed out. If YZJ is not given more air time than the others than fans like you have the right to construe it as a demeaning act towards YZJ by the organizer/planner just because he is a Malaysian. 

    Keeping an open mind to this matter hopefully this is not the case and no one but YZJ should know better regarding this matter.

  2. I really don't understand Yuehua's business practices. With this over-excessive taking advantage of the loose contract, and the whole fiasco with Tencent, they're burning bridges and showing how difficult they are to work with. I can't imagine iQiYi and Tencent are very eager to keep dealing with their demands for future seasons of IP and P101...

     

    Anyways, about Zhangjing's fanmeet. Birthday fanmeets are usually relatively intimate things reserved as a gift for the fans who have supported their idol. It's a time for both the idol and the fans to feel the love from each other, and outside of that bubble rarely anyone is going to come in and decide if they're going to become a stan from that. Besides, it's not like Zhangjing's is inviting someone totally outside of his circle, like an actor or someone who's fans would have no idea who he is. Tangram fans are already very familiar with Zhangjing, especially if they've gone back and looked at literally any pre-Idol Producer content. It's not like they're not already kind of his fans already, or if they're not his fan it's certainly not because of lack of exposure. Banana planning to make Tangram perform was purely for Tangram's benefit, because Zhangjing has a lot of solo stans from his OSTs and post-IP that may not know about the rest of the Banana boys, and would be introduced to them at the party. I'm glad they saw the backlash and decided to not go ahead with that decision (although maybe Tangram would still come onstage to wish Zhangjing well! I would be ok with that)

    I do agree that Zhangjing's fans had arrange many things to promote Zhangjing's birthday fanmeet and I am really glad for him, and in appreciation for their efforts I believe it maybe a wise decision for them that they reverse the decision to have Tangram to perform although I hope YZJ can at least perform together as Banana Culture 9-member group at least for a song.

    Do I need to explain farther that I think his company is not necessary anti YZJ or pro Tangram?

    I think his company will be treating him and Lin Yanjun as their crown jewels with the impact they have so far, and the name FAMILY DAY is planned to give him the feeling of family for YZJ who is a Malaysian working in China. (maybe a surprise visit from his family is being planned instead)

    I watched YZJ from his audition tape and his first ranking performance where he is ranked 69 among the lowest of Banana Culture group, and realize even with his talents he will not be able to outrank people like Cai Xukun and Chen Linong because most of the voting demographic belong to the young girls group.

    I believe that Zhangdejun CP helped increase his and Lin Yanjun's fanbase and similarly his close interactions with other members of nine percent.

    I admit I'm one of his hardcore fans and I even hope that his company helped him set up his own studio like EXO did for LAY.

    In Yuehua's case it is one of IQIYI's early teething problem that need to be sorted out and another would be unfair promotional time given to specific individual on the Idol Producer show.

  3. This is something that I don't understand. Why do you think 'Family Day' here refers Banana Ent? Zhangjing has always referred to his fans as siblings, and all xiyous understood 'Family Day' to mean Zhangjing+xiyous.

     

    I'm a Malaysian too, but it seems to me you don't understand China's stanning culture? If Banana Ent did go through with their initial plan, it won't increase either one of their fanbases, it will only create antis. Especially when Tangram were due to perform a mini concert while Zhangjing only gets to sing 3 songs. Do you really think Zhangjing's Cfans will be okay with that? Nobody, I mean nobody in China is happy with that arrangement. Even Tangram fans weren't happy because they know that their fav group will only get hate. 

     

    Both Zhangjing and Tangram are new, and if you think them having a live broadcast with more hours than other NPC members means more exposure, I'd say that's too much of a reach. Nobody will stay that long to watch more than 2 hours of a live broadcast of people they're not fans of, and no Zhangjing fans would want to watch Tangram perform more than Zhangjing. It would only create displeasure.

     

    With that, I'm gonna stop here with this issue. You clearly have your own minds about it, so I'd respect that.

     

    And I won't be commenting more on this issue either except to maybe update on the impostor that Banana Ent hired to pose as Zhangjing on his weibo account. We'll see if they'd come through with it.

    First  I am thinking that YZJ who is a Malaysian living in China so I viewed China as his adopted country and YZJ as China's adopted son whereas his co members in Banana Culture having trained closely together his first adopted family and idol producer trainees his other adopted family (peolple who trained and lived together as roommates/housemates) and hence FAMILY DAY.

    If the audience are only YZJ's fans then his fanbase will not increase but if the audience is of a wider fanbase then I am confident that when YZJ showcase his talents his fanbase will increase.

    The fact that YZJ receive good response from the audience for his performance on Rap Of China uphold the above point. Similarly his performance live on the song ao hong chen.

    I understand there are fans who would like to go up on stage to give YZJ some presents so I feel its ok if they abandoned the idea of Tangram performing with them but if so this will derive an opportunity for YZJ to  increase his fanbase.

    I do agree that the organizer made a mess of it as they should have given an outline program i.e. say allocating time for fans iinvited on stage with YZJ (probably drawing lots from boxes) and YZJ performing with Tangram.

  4. Tangram is not even the main issue here, the main issue here is how the company is mistreating Zhangjing. Why is it a good thing that Tangram get to sing 5 songs, while Zhangjing only gets to sing 3 songs, at Zhangjing's very own personal birthday party?

     

    The company got him an impostor who replied rudely to a fan, which threw him into unfavourable image. And those OSTs and Rap of China invite? I'm pretty sure those are not because of Banana Ent, but because of his own merits. Banana Ent is only the third party in handling the invitations. The OST songwriters have been following You Zhangjing since Idol Producer, he's the singer they're most interested in. Whether or not he's in Banana Ent, he would still be getting those offers.

     

    See, this wasn't the first time Banana Ent did their artists dirty. They did not do anything for Chaoze and Yanjun for their controversies during Idol Producer. Their PR is, to put it nicely, absolute dirt. They let those two suffer and were only helped by their fellow friends. The ones who do the damage control and taking care of their wellbeings are the hardworking staff on the ground and the artists themselves, not the higher-ups at Banana Ent.

    I am a Malaysian fan who hope that he will do well in China and strongly support him. I acknowledge that it is his talents that got him those OSTs and Rap Of China invite but Banana Ent. is his managing company and we should acknowledge their contribution however minor this maybe and I do not wish him to be seen as one who burns down the bridge having crossed it even though I hope he will have his own studio soon which mean he is doing well.(like Cai Xukun)

    As for the case in Chaoze and Yanjun for their controversies they did come out with explanation but was probably drowned out by antis who wanted to get their own idols selected.

    Whoever the imposter is or from, I have no idea but I agree that this have to be rid off as SURELY staff from the company should not be anti YZJ fans. In any case YZJ performing 3 songs are still more than Lin Yanjun's 2 songs and Xiaogui or Wang Ziyi.

    If Tangram is not going to perform now it just simply mean that the fans will not be able to get this bonus attraction and probably the name FAMILY DAY will change and YZJ fanmeet will be shorter (less exposure time) and the chance to increase his fanbase is smaller.

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  5. You have some good points, but the poster is so misleading. If it has said from the start something along the line of "Tangram celebrates Zhangjing's birthday in FAMILY DAY", then it won't be such a tangled mess. xyjj like myself thought 'Family Day' refers to uu and all his fans as it's a well known fact that uu always treats his fans like siblings, hence Dabaomei and Dabaoti etc. 

     

    The post made in his name (which the fans traced to a Shanghai IP) at a time when uu is still in South Korea?That's just horrible. It said something about how his fans have put 'him' in an awkward position (I think that's what it said as I used Google Translate) - I didn't read all the replies to this imposter's post, but the ones I saw were heart-wrenching as xyjj thought they have hurt uu's feelings and caused him trouble.

     

    No matter what their intentions are, some Banana staff has messed up big time and the long silence would only cause more tension and discordant.

     

    I hope uu and Tangrams are holding each other's hands... this is certainly a test of their friendship.

    I usually ignore and do not acknowledge bad posts and I have belief in what his company is trying to do for him as they got him 2 great OST songs for him to sing so far and another great song on the Rap Of China show.

    The Banana Culture group is a close unit, as there was even a video clip where he and Lin Yanjun attended Lin Chaoze's birthday right after nine percent's fanmeet and having them together celebrating his birthday in his adopted homeland would simply be great.

    You Zhangjing.......adopted son of China

    China....................adopted homeland of YZJ

    Banana Culture....adopted family of YZJ

  6. Erm nope, Yanjun won't even be there. The rumour only has Tangram in the lineup and worse, they're treating it as a Tangram event, not Zhangjing's birthday event. If Yanjun can have his solo birthday event, then Zhangjing deserves his too. I haven't seen any of his Cfans who are not angry or upset with this arrangement.

     

     

    Also, why do many people think that it's a good idea to let Yanjun and Zhangjing back to Tangram, when after 13 months, the roles are pretty much established and the dynamic of the whole group has changed? Will Tangram members step down from being center and main vocal for Yanjun and Zhangjing? Will Yanjun and Zhangjing have to be satisfied by not being a center and a main vocal because Tangram fans will definitely not be pleased by that idea? Plus, Zhangjing is already 24. He needs time to build his reputation as a respectable singer in China, and being in an idol group won't do him any good.

     

     

     

    It just got worse. Today fans found out only 200 tickets out of 600 are accounted for Zhangjing's fans, while 350 are with Banana Ent (the rest are for media/VIP/Hair Recipe draw etc.). So now Zhangjing's fans get even angrier because those 350 tickets are assumed to be for Tangram fans instead.

     

     

    This, pretty much! 

     

    Also regarding the 'scandal' about the person impersonating Zhangjing on his weibo account, some fans tracked that person's IP and found out that she's a Banana staff and compared her post to her weibo, so it's now confirmed that it wasn't Zhangjing.

     

    Banana Ent is shooting themselves in the foot here. If they go through with what was rumoured, they're just gonna turn a lot of Zhangjing's fans into anti-Tangram.

     

    Treating it as a Tangram event? Okay, that's ugly as f*ck. And the whole ticket thing wtf..

     

     

    As for wanting ZhangJun to be added to Tangram, I'd personally like the idea because OT9 have such great chemistry together and they really seem to enjoy being a team a lot. I also don't think Zhangjing's age is a problem. He's only a 94 liner and they even have a 93 liner in the group. R*cket Girls even has a 91 liner too. I think 20s is still an acceptable idol age

     

    From my point of view the company will not do any harm to any of its artiste SURELY.. I feel that his company maybe trying to help him increase his fanbase as well as tangram fanbase.

    You Zhangjing  being able to perform the song "Stranger In The North" on Rap Of China is a commendable effort of his company and the lyrics are a bit related to Zhangjing's story..

    As in the song "Stranger In The North" aptly describe Zhangjing as a foreigner in China who is trying to showcase his talents and trying to make it in China (hoping music moguls will help him to take him higher as its almost impossible to do so in Malaysia his home)

    As a foreigner he misses his family in Malaysia and consider his co members in Banana Culture as his family. hence his birthday concert is called family day.

    As for the allocation of 200 tickets to YZJ fans and 350 tickets to tangram may seemed unfair but 350 are for 7/8 other members i.e. about 50 tickets each other member.

    YZJ is currently ranked 8th among the nine percent weibo followers and I hope that both the upcoming Rap Of China performance and the birthday fanmeet will help increase his fanbase in China and internationally.

    Listen to this song that YZJ is going to sing on Rap Of China

     

     

  7. We won't know about the details of his birthday party until more clarification is made, but yeah Cfans are basically accusing Banana Ent for taking advantage of Zhangjing's kind (and non-confrontational) heart, and to treat him fairly. The hashtags are basically all about fair treatment for him, someone literally changed his/her username into 'don't bully Zhangjing' etc. Yeah it was a 'hot search' on Weibo yesterday.

     

    Regarding the 'scandal' of his account being used to post something that doesn't sound like him, I believe he already clarified it implicitly in his latest post, he basically wrote 'after not updating for a few days' so we know that the previous comment wasn't made by him.

    If Banana Ent. is also performing I believe it will be a 2 hour show then which is longer than most IQIYI nine percent shows. Maybe they will perform their songs like rock the show and the ranking performance song in idol producer, I'll be happy with that and it probably means he and Yanjun will most likely return to the group after nine percent disbanded.

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