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It has been so long since I last visited this page. Work has been hectic so I barely have time to update anymore. Here is the latest teaser for her drama, Find Yourself/ Senior Girl's First Love. It looks super cute, goofy and good. I'm anticipating it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFWLyAKwew&feature=youtu.be
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I've been so busy at work that I haven't had a chance to post in a while. How's have you all been lately?
Victoria is the new ambassador for Audi's Q2L

TheNextTopBang weibo officially announced that Song Qian as the mentor for the girl team
[10.10.18] Airport Shanghai to Beijing



Lucky assistance always getting backhugs.









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I've watched this performance a million time and I still just focus on her

Victoria should always wear suits, the suits were made for her

I honestly don't ship Vic with anyone
and I don't get the appeal of William and Vic as a ship
I know right. Suits are so nice on her! She promotes the business/office woman workwear.
I didn't understand the appeal either until I saw their cute little interactions on the show, mainly in the backroom interview. I couldn't help, but think it's super cute. Especially funny how jealous he got when Victoria talked about the body/muscle line of one of the crew members. He kept repeating that he also has muscle lines and he is known to have a good body. But Vic just kept going on and on, describing the arm muscle, the stomach muscle etc in very good details about the crew member.
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Yeah, Vic doesn't know how to speak Cantonese.
I see. Thanks. I was just wondering because she has been on a lot of shows with a lot of Cantonese speakers. Even though they speak Mandarin on these programs I just wonder if she tries to learn the language.
Did they use the scream from Dracula ? I think it's the same but I haven't seen anyone talking about it so, I asked my sis and she thinks it's the same too

I was thinking the same thing. I listened to both of them and they are the same. Those female screams are basically the same.
LORDDD shes so mesmerizing. and it took me about 3 rewatches to stop focusing solely on vic but it was an incredible performance. i love this team
gonna miss them...(the end with vic and william...... dorkling isn't the only one shipping them
can they pleaaaase work together again. preferably as a couple in a drama)meant to do this yesterday but i accidentally refreshed the page mid update and got mad lol but here's some updates from HBDCI feel your pain. It happened a few times to me too, but the good thing is there is auto save!
It's not my fault I shipped them. It's THEIR fault! The backroom interviews are so cute and I can't at the way they stare each other. Maybe I just turned to the dark side because of shippers...they convinced me.
From Vietnamese to English translation so it might not be 100% correct because even though I can speak Vietnamese, I can only read a bit.
W: Because of filming, I have gotten to know a lot about her
V: I also know a lot about him
(Don't know this part)
0:25-0:27 W: I wanted to say that we are the same type of person.
(William complimented her on her clothing and said their styling kind of match. Victoria patted his arm then pointed to their hair. V: we also have the same color hair now too)
(I don't know what the team asked Victoria, but it made her speechless) W: Do you want to show/tell me. (Victoria then chuckled. Then William looked at the staff) W: No/There is none. Next question. (Victoria chuckled some more)
0.58-1:06 V: I want to know that it turns out that from a young age you can speak English? (Put hand on mouth)
W: Yeah
V: It turns out that you dance specially specially well at a young age?
W: Yeah
V: It turns out that you learned from a good teacher/master at a young age? (It's like saying he had a good educational background)
W: (Laughs because he finally understood her subtle compliment) Yeah
(Both laughing silly/cutely)
W: It turns out you knew Korean when you were younger? (Victoria was laughing loudly hearing this)
W: It turned out you were in a group. Presently you went here yourself. It turns out you are an actress. It turns out you are a singer. (Victoria laughing hysterically) Then the her song Roof on Fire began playing.
Vic generally talk about the new song : fire on roof, some fire can become very big, hopefully the song will become very popular.William Chen: "I really like Song Qain"....."Some times she can be so man, then I will be the girly one, sometimes she is like a girl, then I am the real man" ... "when you (Vic) stand on the stage, your beauty/strength give big pressure on the stage." Then I did not get what they said at all...Vic act very cute at the time.......then William clap hands for her. William: "you (Vic) are brilliant...very great"Vic: "Your hand claps made lot fluffy things in the air." ...William: "My mandarin (pronunciation) is not so good (as William come from HONGKONG and use to speak cantonese), so I let her (Vic) talking the most as I may not describe things clear enough and unable to control my emotion/frustration ". Vic: Used Cantonese "you need to control your self". William: "very good".."So good". One of staff : "So..shell we all going out for you?" (Joking) Vic: "Why you need to go out?"....laugh. William: "I think my EQ is quite high..". However, the pronunciation of "shuang" should be "shang". Vic: "Qing shang (EQ)". William: "Qing shuang". Vic: "shang". William: "shuang"....William: "Doesn't matter, as long as you can understand." Vic laugh..
credit: QV
(The first setence didn't make sense to me) W: Her danced show me to think infront of a lot of people. Song Qian is the type of person that progress step by step, has the courage to challenge, I admire her courage (phuc...hard to explain that word. But it's like look up to. I used admire.) Today when I saw her dancing, I thought it was super good, honestly. All the attention is on her. Because she is Song Qian. (I melted at this) If I can rank her performance she will be #1, in my heart she is has already won. At this time she should go and take a rest
No clue why the the uploader didn't translate it, but someone else only did a portion of his interview. Someone told me that In the beginning he also said something along the lines of she is the best girl I have ever met in this life.
Fan's were holding their breathe while looking at Victoria walk across the HBDC stage


Even her crew members were concerned looking at her walk

The last HBDC recording Victoria was trending that night

The reasons why Victoria keep on telling fans she is straight. She hope all their wishes come true except marrying her


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Everytime I look at Yanjun, I melt a little more inside. Can he stop being so hot? I am dying here.
Is jiejie the trend or something? I've been hearing a lot of guys getting all happy/excited over older sister. And how does XiaoGui know he doesn't have any jiejie fans in the game? LOL. Do they show the age of the characters or something?
Only ZiYi is dressed as a boy. Everyone else are girls.
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^ LOL. Updating is always a lot of work since there are usually daily updates and not many people in the Victoria thread posting to begin with.
Here is the English one with Victoria for Dramafever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQdgQif4uQE
Translation: Generally, Vic said she has a deep understanding about the frustration which the members have. She hopes that her team members can try harder to overcome the problem they are facing as what she have done before and still doing. Then she explained that she has learned Chinese traditional dances from her middle school and was always the top of the class. Then be able to learn street dance about 2005/2006/2007. She thought the street dance will be easy for her as she learn dance very fast. However, because of the chinese dance she learned, she had very difficult time to get the street dancer's sense of style. She found the style differences between herself and what they are teaching/expecting. She thinks that working hard and practice more and more to overcomes the problems she was facing, then be able to get no. She made a had huge improvement on street dancing through a year of learning and practice and got a high score that year. {credit: QV)
General speaking Victoria told these dancer that they need try the different thing, never try, never known what happened. She told them the story about her experience. She learnt the dance what was very quick, however The feeling was always not right. She nearly gave up, she lost confidence. But other people helped her, she finally got the right feeling. she won the no.1 that year, not her dance is top, but she improved a lot. (credit: fayefayejia)
She gave a really inspiring speech. She touched upon on how relying on prior knowledge with arrogance can be detrimental when it comes to learning a new skill. Although she had many years of dancing experience and practice, she mentioned that she found it difficult to learn of the flow(?) of the hiphop dance style. I think her story is applicable towards other fields. Sometimes, we can get so attached to what's comfortable to us that it's difficult to transform ourselves or incorporate new habits into our daily lives. It's certainly important that we persist and keep on trying until we succeed. (credit: xin li)
Behind the scene with Victoria & Suta
She was saying she doesn't want to dance because she is in pain (Jokingly). She said she's tired. Then she talks about having to film the drama during the day then going back to shower then rest for 1-2 hours then waking up for makeup then filming the drama and repeat. etc. (You know the rest) She also gave Suta a nickname...I can't get Akita out of my mind everytime I see Suta now...
BTS of Moonshine & Valentines
She was saying how that mask smells and even told Johnny to try it. (She was kind of sick at the time. Not good for her throat.) The staff teased her saying that's life. You just have to deal with it.
Song Qian analysis
I can't remember the whole interview.
Q: Do you hide your identity/wear mask when you go out?
A: No. I hate wearing mask. At most I'll only wear a hat and sunglasses when I go out.
Q: Do you have any plans/upcoming activities?
A: My drama is wrapping up soon and my variety show (HBDC) is also coming to an end. After that I will be focusing on my album. (Thank the lord because Queen, it has been 1 year already since the teaser first came out, but after seeing the interview the staff of the drama gave. I guess she was suppose to come out with the album during Aug/Sept, but she ended up taking on the drama 'Moonshine & Valentines' at that time instead. I heard somewhere she was also suppose to take on a variety show at that time too. Probably Idol Producer, she was rumored.)
I have the Shanghai Times interview somewhere...can't find it right now. Whatever my updates aren't in order anyways.
Have some Past vs. Present
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^ Translation from the same clip as the above
Back to Bang-toria for her new drama






180523 Huangshan to Beijing









She is killing me with her legs and her style. I really want her shirt and combat boots...
Today she is in Beijing for some mall event for Loewe, I believe. That's what fans are saying. Not sure if it's true or not, but I haven't seen her wear that brand for awhile.
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Behind the scene interview of HBDC: https://weibo.com/5103645868/GhOaEFNQX?filter=all&root_comment_id=0&type=comment#_rnd1526964192804
This made me cry seeing her like this. I haven't cried seeing her cry until now; I got a little teary eyed watching it. Not 100% accurate. So in this upcoming weeks episode of HBDC she is doing a dance with a teammate. During rehearsal she had muscle strain pain, but didn't want to stop. She was talking about how she had to go shoot the drama (The Moon doesn't understand my heart) during the day and come back in the early night to dance practice. She would only sleep for about 2h every night because she needed to wake up and go to her drama shoot. Muscle pain is normal and she deals with it by taking pain killers. (She brushed it off like its no big deal. It's normal and common to feel muscle pain from dancing.) Then she talked about why she picked her teammate. She picked him because isn't a popular member compare to the other teammates. She wanted to give him his moment to shine/stand out. She got teary eyed because of this because she wants him to be known/noticed and well liked by others.
She put pressure on herself because basically she feels that because she picked him and if he doesn't win than it's her fault. She doesn't want to see him get eliminated. She said so in a backroom interview that if a team fail, it's not their fault but the leader fault.
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LOLs. These boys are all so greasy/cheesy, I can't take them seriously.

Their management company needs to put a pause on the advertisements and focus more on the projects at hand. I am getting old waiting! By the time the album comes out or their reality show comes out, Idol Producer s2 will be out.

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^ I love those shoes in the first picture. The picture with her in the black dress, onto of the counter. That's really sexy.
LOL my friend is Yen (crouchy929) . She said she will try LOL.
Let's see when she is going to post it... She was waiting for her fansite to do it LOL
Oh don't get too deep into shipping LOL.
They are cute and sweet but they seem to be too comfortable with each other... and I feel like Vic is too strong/man for him lol.
I mean he has all colorful hair in the show when Vic is much simpler haha. She sat manlier than him sometimes too haha.
Vic likes guys that is only nice to her. But he seems to be nice with all the girls and has a lot of ships too...
Looking at his exes he has a type too and Vic doesn't fall into it
Just be careful haha!
#1: Zheng Han (H2H)
#2: Vic (LK:HEFL)
#3: Johnny (LK:HEFL)

The drama is really doing well.
They are on top even if it's not even a week yet and we barely has 4eps/ 2days airing
We are also gaining 1000 rating in Douban each day too...
H2H is the drama leading on National TV right now but they had only less than 7000 ratings with 26 episodes out already
https://movie.douban.com/subject/26311907/
LK:HEFL has over 10,000 rating now with not even 1 week in and 4 episodes out.
Okay thanks! Yeah...I regret not taking Mandarin in school.

I've never deeply shipped before. I use to ship Khuntoria at one point. I remember diving deep (giving money, talking to tons of people about KV, writting fanfics etc.) and once it was over, I dipped out. LOL. I still re-watch the episodes once in a blue moon, but to be fair I watch Changtoria youtube clips and read fanfics too. I'm a odd one. I know. It's not my fault she is shippable. It's just right now my obsession is Victoria x William.
But being comfortable is a good thing. When you are comfortable it means you trust the other person and feel comfortable enough to open up to them. Little by little she'll break down her wall and them in more; see more parts to her.
Funny you brought up her being more strong/manly. They addressed this in a backroom interview. I'll translate it sometime this weekend. She even did a domineering/manly pose and he was saying cutely, "don't be like that."
He is quirky. A lot of times he changed his hair color because he was matching her or matching the dance concept. She does sit manlier than him, but at the same time she has really good posture the way she sits in general. But the reason why I say they are good for one another is when he is weak she is strong, when she is strong he is weak. They balance each other out. She cried more than him on the show, but I understand why she shed those tears.
Yeah he is nice to everyone, but so is Vic. LOL. It's funny she is the same way (considerate, kind and sweet to everyone), but wants a guy who is only nice to her. Yeah, my friend said that too. LOL. He has a lot of rumor romances and a string of ex-gfs. I don't know what his type is since the girl in his recent rumor doesn't look like his exs. I looked up some info about him because all I know about him was that he is an actor. The article about him being rumored with some girl in January popped up. That sometimes pop into my mind when I watch him flirt shamelessly with Vic.
That's good her drama is receiving a lot of love and new fans. She is evolving more and more with each role she takes.
I hope she comes out with her album soon because it's been over 2 months already. Her drama is wrapping up soon, I hope after that she will drop us the album because it's driving me crazy waiting. Btw, her song is a hit. I was skimming a lot of video sharing sites and there are tons of people dancing to her song. And her song is popular on TikToc too.
Another behind the scene of Moonshine & Valentines. The co-director talking about the drama.
I was suprised Vic didn't attend Yinger's wedding. I thought they were friends.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I assume it was for those reasoning too, but just wanted to confirm that was why they picked her.
@Dorkling I only have rough translation. I'm convincing my friend to do it...right now LOL
There is a part Vic talk about her struggle in Korea where the dance style isn't her original style... Even she could do it but she wasn't able to feel it... But she was able to take the top trainee that year after working so hard for it...
And I edited my above post a bit.
"Until she said that person drank 8 raw eggs in a variety show and Vic pointed to herself then everyone realized it was Vic... "
Thanks! Most of my Chinese friends only know how to speak Canto. So no help there.
Haven't updated on Vic's activities on this page lately because I've been busy...shipping...
I just discovered a whole new world out there. A pink one. Victoria Song x William Chan. I think I got converted...What to do...once the show is over. My shipping heart is going to break.-Moonshine and Valentines (Yes, the title has now been changed to this), has now reached 500m views on Tencent.
-In this week's upcoming episode of HBDC, Victoria is going to have a stage with her crew/team. http://www.miaopai.com/show/Rb19Y~sAxiR2psT2It8-lnqLE1wLnFe0VsAtSA__.htm
-Victoria is currently in Nice, France.
Miguel Zarate commented on Victoria's Instagram and she also commented on his. SO cute!!!


Hot Blooded Dance Crew Episode 8
Part 1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jh408
Part 2: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jh409
Part 3: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jh40a
HBDC weibo update

Updated Instagram post in Nice, France.


Victoria x Jimmy Choo






Someone said this was for Shanghai Times, not sure.
Victoria bought milk tea for fans

Ending this post with something sweet. Please don't have a heart attack
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Does anyone know if Victoria knows how to speak Cantonese or does she only know Mandarin?
For what I understood, it's not because she mentioned good look that people think it was Luhan
She said it's not "star chasing" but "love". That's why people including Luhan thought it's him because usually girls saying love to guys...
Until she said 8 years then everyone realized it was Vic...
Ah I see. No wonder why Victoria keeps mentioning she is straight. And once said she hopes her fans wishes can all come true, except marrying her. Ahh...loving her for 8 years. The girl was really cute/pretty too. Do you mind translating the whole thing, if it isn't too much work. Thanks.
I wonder why upcoming/rookie idols never mention Fei, Jia etc.
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LOLs. When you are caught checking out your crush, but get caught doing it.
So relatable.Man, sometimes i wonder why did they form the group if they won't be focusing on it for the 18months that they have.
I said this problem in the original producer idol tread awhile back and was jumped on, saying how the 18month group will be just tempt so companies choose not to make it a priority. With this logic it makes me mad because people like most of them because of the show and want to see them as a group the show created even if it is just a temp. group. You get popular from the show, but who is to say your company group will be popular once 18 months is over and you debut with your company.
Look at past producer 101 outcome. A lot of them were so popular, but once they debut with their company group...it faded quick. They as people were popular, but the groups popularity was just okay.
Disappointed, but it was predictable. I hope to see the variety show with them soon because even though I like them a lot, without exposures they will slowly fade away; making room for upraising idols.
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The Love Knot: His Excellency's First Love [Eng]
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someone said that girl is on of HBDC staff and she's a fan of Vic for 8 years, she's also from Qingdao. I need the full trans though, seems like a heartwarming confession

Yeah! After watching it a few times and reading google translation it seems she is a fan for years. At first everyone, even Victoria, thought it was Luhan since she was talking about good looks etc. But then when she talked about the number of years that person debut, Victoria said it was her. I think it was the lighting director or something. Anyways so cute!!! That's every fans wish right there...
The Love Knot: His Excellency's First Love [Eng]
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HAPPY 100 PAGES EVERYONE!
I can't. This tattoo.....
I want to know the backstory behind why he got it there + why 'Mr. Nice'. But LOL at it being an such an inappropriate area. Not sure any girl will be thinking 'He's my Mr. Nice' once they get that low.Wait, that's the fandom name???? What's the relation to anything? Feels like they just picked a random word.
lol, I can't take it seriously.
I can't take the fandom name being 'Nice' seriously either. Maybe they came up with it hoping the fans will play nice with one another.
Who knows. Maybe ZZT will be a gentle lover or a super giving lover hence he is 'Mr. Nice.'
Imagine licking chocolate off that tattoo and those abs. JK!
tbh the photographer could do a better job, something about the photo feels weird, maybe it's the angle/lighting making Ziyi, Zhangjing and XG look a bit distorted. The photographer shouldn't have asked them to sit on the ground. I like the overall styling, it's a clean, simple refreshing look.
I just wish this wasn't mint on mint...their faces and clothing blends too much with the background. No real color contrast here. If they have a light mint background at least have brighter/darker color clothing.
And why did no one post these. I just need a few more buttons to pop and we are good.



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The Love Knot: His Excellency's First Love drama airs tonight [China Time]!!
Another trailer for it: https://weibo.com/tv/v/GfP2DtXDj?fid=1034:a96422bab9edcb6206bea51a8437c19d
Victoria telling us to watch her drama: https://v.qq.com/x/cover/n7tkhkv2tgd4sjd/z00267iv9qq.html
but seriously why isn't there any promo for this drama. Is there even a press con?
I don't remember there being any press conference for this drama either. There are some promotion for the drama, but not from the actors. I saw it a few days ago, but I was too lazy to post. There were wall poster boards, poster stands, bus stop posters, and televisions replying the MV/teasers for each character/trailer.
Why is the intro song and ending song both so sad...argh. My heart predicts this will be a tearjerker drama!
^ The weibo update with friends interaction


Miu Miu's tweets questions/answers with Victoria (I'll only post The Qs and As since we have the pictures a page back)
Q: Why she thinks she was born a dancer
A: Prefer to express emotions with my body, rather than with words.
Q: On first encountering Miu Miu…
A: I first became aware of Miu Miu when I started devouring fashion magazines as a teenager. The Miu Miu ads looked so different from the others that they left a huge impression on me. I wanted to be those girls.
Q: On her first album, Victoria…
A: I just released my first single, Roof on Fire. I knew this was the song the moment I heard the demo. I liked its blend of Chinese and western elements.
Q: on happiness…
A: For me, a perfect moment is not about what I do – whether it is reading a book or spending time with my friends – it is more about a state of mind. A mood which makes me feel relaxed and enjoy the moment.
Q: on the one thing she can’t go to a party without…
A: This #MiuLady bag. It has the color of a disco ball. I was a guest at the recent #MiuMiuDisco event in Nanjing, where the pop-up store was decorated like a real life disco party. So much fun!
Q: on the outfit chosen for the #GirlInMiuMiu shoot…
A: I am a big fan of layering, so I am wearing a gray men’s style coat with two dresses underneath. I like how the dresses have a shirt collar and glitters.
Q: Victoria Song on her view of the contemporary woman…
A: She is independent and full of confidence. She knows what she wants, and puts it into practice.
Q: Victoria Song on her ultimate style icon…
A: I wanted to say my mom, who I am super close to and hugely influenced by. But if I have to pick someone famous... Audrey Hepburn! She is someone I’ve always looked up to.
Q: Victoria Song on the years of training as a professional dancer…
A: I started training as a dancer when I was ten. I spent many years practicing the traditional Chinese dance [...] and attending national competitions.
HBDC someone's confession: https://weibo.com/tv/v/GfPaaoqYN?fid=1034:5f7bcad13a2e33b78de03b5a577eeb47
I'll need translation for this, but from what I am getting, the girl was confession about someone and Jackson thought it was Luhan until she said something that couldn't have been Luhan. So Jackson and him were wondering who it was about, turns out it was Victoria. LOL
HBDC Su Lianya confess to Song Qian: https://weibo.com/tv/v/GfJzGqh4O?fid=1034:56240b1ce6204bed17615d18aaa96c62
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Hmm, I guess Victoria's acting improves a bit with every casting. Because when I started watching Qian's drama with Calvin Siu (When Love Walked In), I didn't like it as much, maybe because they dubbed in her voice. However, I enjoyed Beautiful Secret more.
Oh and I forgot to say, the Chinese remake of My Best Friend's Wedding is already on Netflix.
I skimmed through that drama LOL. It reminded me of some over expressive dramas that Taiwanese/Japanese sometimes create. I liked Beautiful Secret too. My Best Friend's wedding wasn't too bad, Ice Fantasy isn't bad either. I think she does improve a little, but she needs to soften her expression a bit. But then again her facial expressions is overly expressive LOL. When she rolls her eyes she literally rolls her eyes to the back of her head.
OH RIGHT one more thing for me to get behind
i've been so focused on school lately i can't even keep up anymore yikesThat's how I was before too. I was too busy to do anything except skim forums.
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I think the Hanggeng era has ended long ago after Tao's lawsuit since SM's been pretty down with their play by being very careful on how they treat their Chinese members due to the Korea-China tension, look at how Victoria and specially Yixing are now freely promoting in China.... SM is starting to reform which is a good thing because they probably realized how trashy and racist they are. Im still pissed off on how they give 0 lines to Winwin thank god they give him screentime now I hope they fix it once he debuts in China line.
on the other hand I can't say much about how YMC, YMC is the epitome trash we've been knew. They treat Wn1 as their bloody bank account, exhaust Daniel to the extent, trashes on LGL(pretty racist to their only Chinese member). They feed on Wn1's popularity and exploit the fans interest by overselling their concert tickets.
I don't think so. I think you are being too optimistic when it comes to SM and their treatment of their foreign artist. The reason they gave Victoria a studio is because it was during the time she went to renegotiate her contract with SM. She was in and out of SM building for several days regarding her contract and a few weeks after she finished the negotiation her studio appears. As for Yixing, he is the last Chinese member of EXO. If they don't loosen their grips on him he could just leave like the others. On a business stand point, you need to loosen a bit before they completely slip from your gasp. Look at how Amber, even though she isn't from China, had to deal with SM. They promised her a lot of things, but they never fulfilled it. She did everything for herself, even getting gigs. Long story short, idols to SM is quick easy money. It's not a long term thing. Its easy access to a gold mine (China).
The reason why I say this is because f(x) only had like a 1 month promotion cycle at most, every year, and even then they don't even go on a lot of variety shows to promote. They don't have concerts except their last promotion cycle, and SM concerts. If other artist/people, who are Korean, from the company can film a drama why couldn't Victoria? It wasn't until her contract was up that she gotten those opportunities. Now SM can't control her except for maybe when it comes to her Korean activies/f(x)'s comeback. SM didn't even produce her music for her latest album hence she wasn't on SM youtube channel whereas Yixing's was.
recreating that meme lolIt reminds me of Attack on the Titans for some reason...

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ChengCheng's Brother-in-law talks about him in an interview.
Not sure if these were posted yet


The thing is i do not believe SM burnt their bridges just because of the scandal with exo boys.I believe it is just a case of supporting their own, even some chinese fans when i read comments were understanding but were just saying pay it off and then leave you know. It is all about the public. SM has great connections with China.. how do you think they got so many chinese trainees haha. So i wouldn't worry about that at all
I wouldn't say SM has great connections in China. They have some, but not much. They have joint ventures; China and Korean ventures with dramas and music, but even then that is limited. China is something that SM had wanted to conquer for years, but could never do it. Can't speak for other people, but with Victoria. There were a lot of offers for her for years, but SM never allowed it. Even when she went on Happy camp, they said they sent a lot of invitations for her, khuntoria, and f(x) to go on the show, but were always shot down. The problem with SM is that they are too greedy. They didn't accept offers for their Chinese artist because they don't want their artist to stray too far from their gasp. At least with Korean artist, they won't have anywhere to go to in the future, but home/back to Korea. SM would loosen the grip on their idols just to yank it back. Think about how much SM blacklisted JYJ members in Korea, yet they couldn't do anything to Hangeng.
The thing is there are a lot of Chinese trainees in Korea, not because they have connections, but it's what they can do musically. A lot of these trainees choose Korea because they have a dream of singing and dancing. Korean are known for their idol system; Kpop.
Talking about this just makes me so mad because as a foreigner in the company they are limited, but if you are Korean you are pushed. It's unfair, but what can you do. Either stay and struggle and gain a platform into the idol world, or go back to your country where the word 'idol' doesn't exist/isn't popular with the public. Right now thinking of Wanna One's Gualin and it makes my blood boil.
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recreating that meme lol


Official Queen of China Victoria Song Qian Thread
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I love how she teases her fans! First she calls them Lemon Essence group for being jealous over her baby piglet. Now she tease them by buying them noodles. No love.
