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You don’t “have†to stream anything. Kpop fans... you guys make it sound like a full time job instead of something you just enjoy

KTL might take the lead in 24 hours views this week

Exactly. All conspiracy theories and lengthy discussions about how views are calculated should be another thread. This should just be about discussing views at point-blank.

BP had over 1M likes deleted. Why are you guys acting like YouTube has something against BTS? If they deem something illegitimate they will remove it. What will satisfy you guys? If it's really that big of a deal stop caring about it. Isn't that was said last time? I specifically remember reading Army saying they didn't care about youtube anymore because it was shady, yet here we are again, once again focusing on views and once again calling YouTube shady. If it's TRULY that important, then stop caring about it altogether. I personally find it ridiculous to assume a large company like Google is going to have some personal vendetta against one specific artist and so blatantly delete views. It's highly possible that with so many views incoming at one time, the counter miscounted and gave them too many views, and went back and filtered out any mistaken views. There are many possibilities. But "YouTube hates us and BTS and is sabotaging us" sounds ridiculous. Eventually, you guys are going to make youtube pull a Gaon and stop revealing data altogether by continuing to harass them and question their methods. let it fucking go.

There is no “lame†thing to focus on. This is the mentality now because it’s known BP has more casual listeners and it’s a losing battle. Not to start anything, but this is nothing but a sore loser mentality. If BTS has better longevity than BP you would still think it’s the best thing since sliced bread. BP will likely be the first group to achieve 1B views. You don’t think that’s an achievement that will be all over the news? It’s a great achievement for Kpop

It seems the views slowly down quite significantly past the first 12 hours. I do not think they'll easily surpass KTL in views. KTL might stay ahead at this rate (in overall views, not in terms of records).

Y’all talking about lazy. I watch a video once and then go to Spotify lmao. Maybe this is why RBB is struggling to hit 50M

Probably going to be like last time where BTS takes the quick records (first 24 hours, etc.) but BP will keep the long-haul records. Their longevity every single comeback has been astounding

A slay

Looks like the views caught up. At 93M now, was at 90M last time I checked which was less than an hour ago I think. I think it will beat the 100M record

The conspiracy theories I've seen... I have to laugh. Hope they snatch the record though!

yeah tbh no one is bashing or anything. It's nice to have discussions sometimes rather than just spazzing over pictures

I was not pressuring them to be like Soshi, I was only countering the argument that changing concepts is bad for the fandom when in reality most of the time Korean fandoms like concept changes. I don't understand why there is a mentality that the group will divide the fandom by a concept change...

Exactly my view. People actually thinking "They only have 2.5 years" is a way to justify having the same concept when in reality its the opposite. They ONLY have 2.5 years to leave a lasting impression on the public in a way that trickles into their follow up groups. They ONLY have 2.5 years to show what they're capable of. They ONLY have 2.5 years to prove that they're more than just hype. Do you guys honestly want them to spend their ONLY possible time promoting as a group, promoting the same concept? You guys don't want to see hear different sounds, see different looks, get different feels? We only have 2.5 years to appreciate IZ*ONE, and I for one do not want them to serve LVER remakes for the entirety of their contracts. That is such a waste of the talent this group has. They can do many concepts that fit the members and aren't too revealing for the younger members such as: (Concepts, not talking about the songs) This is not about success, its about wanting them to show their full potential before their inevitable disbandment. I don't how its possible anyone would want to see only one side to IZ*ONE for their entire duration as a group. That is absurd to me.

What? Into The New World, Baby Baby, Gee, Genie, etc. aren't variations in concepts? I'm not saying they NEED to change concepts, I'm saying a change in concept will not kill the group or the fanbase like many people here are implying.

These groups do not flop due to a change in concept, it's because the SONGs are not good. GFriend have underperformed with many of their standard sounding tracks. Some stick, some do not. It's not the concept, it's the song. Time for the Moon Night stuck with the public in ways some of their other songs did not. Fingertip did not smash because the public simply didn't like the song. The album, iirc, is one of their highest selling. The fanbase liked the concept, the public just didn't like the song. Same for TWICE. Signal is one of their best selling albums iirc, the song received very mixed reactions from everyone, that is why it didn't perform as well as some of their other hits. Seriously, let's not pretend it was the concepts that cause underperformances. Red Velvet smashed with Red Flavor, then came back with Peekaboo, then again with Bad Boy, then to Power Up. All decent hits despite vastly different concepts. Fanbases like varying concepts and the public do as well you but you need to have a good song accompanying the concept change.

How? SNSD maintained their fanbase for over a decade with a huge variation in concepts. I do not like the idea of sticking to one concept. It's boring. What's the excitement in waiting for the next era if you know how its going to look like and sound?

He’s gonna surpass the boy group ULs

SM starting off 2018 with a bang.

Literally insane

Somebody said they hit 3M preorders but I can't find a thread somewhere. Is that true? I'm shook. Never thought I'd see that in the Korean industry

I don't think any of my friends use this forum so I'll go ahead and post a picture. I'm ugly so caution

GIRL Join SM's Western SNSD

Even the Japanese fans can't get enough of Minju I'm so glad her popularity is seemingly going to boost from this comeback

Both. I saw multiple articles about her appearance at Taeyeon's concert lmao