Jyn

I want my name in rainbow colors add me please...lesbian since ever.

Wait...we were supposed to take this thread seriously 99.9% of the time? I guess most of us have been posting wrong.... (I'll let CL finish that statement for me.) Wow...those eyes and that statement just scream straight to me...maybe we should make a poll and vote and take everything super seriously 99.9% of the time now.

I think that they would rather homosexuals didn't exist, the other day I was was just strolling through the internet looking at stuff and someone mentioned the kpop/korean entertainment black book thing. I'm not certain about details but sometime a decade ago or so there was this book that came out exposing a ton of secrets. There was this claim or this suggestive statement made or something like that about male celebrity and it outed him and he killed himself. I've heard about that story before and granted it occurred in the 1990's I thought I would be able to find something about it on the internet but nothing. I think that they are trying to protect idols as well, but they are also protecting their investment because I doubt these companies only see idols as just humans which sucks. Its Lmfao I realized that later and inwardly died but it still tied into my point because people complain about BP all the time. Its either not "girl crush" enough or too "girl crush" like somehow they are too pretty and feminine to be considered girl crush or not strong enough in their style to be considered girl crushes or too strong to the point its somehow not appealing which is stupid. Its too hard for some people to understand that you don't need to be "masculine" or a "tough girl" to be a girl crush, like women can't be considered girl crushes unless they act and dress a certain way. The patriarchy or powers that be over there in SK seem to be rationalizing the everyday all women are and can be strong women thing by narrowly defining what a girl crush is to their "acceptable" view.

I think Jenny knew exactly what she was signing up for when she joined YG and how that would impact her outward image. I doubt she was so naive to believe that she would actually be rocking sky blue or pink dresses or white whatever prancing around the stage singing about falling in love with a boy in a flurry of cherry blossoms or something like that in pigtails. Which personally there is nothing wrong with that its just not what YG does frankly. YG's former premier girl group 2NE1 (RIP), never assumed the conventional idol girl group stereo type and pioneered this "girl crush" thing. I'm actually surprised at how toned down BP's "girl crush" concept/image is and to be totally honest I think Jenny and the rest of the girls pull it off super well. I think BP is a lot more conventionally feminine and stylistically conventional in general than 2NE1 was at the start but it works not because of the clothes they are wearing but because of natural charisma and the strong female aura they exude. I think its a push to say girl crush was imposed on Jenny, when in all honesty it was assumed as a duty and an honor from 2NE1 and expected by YG and the general public. The whole shipping thing in Korea is hard for me to digest, and annoys the ever living heck out of me because the thing is the Korean public actually loves the gayness in my opinion. Its alright to act like you're gay with your members but to actually be gay is a terrible sin that somehow turns you into an entirely different person. If anything the term girl crush and the whole shipping thing is really just a joke and or a gimmick to them. Its hard for me to understand the whole straight girl shipping two guys together thing as well, and to be honest I feel like the male ships have always been given more attention because as some people said in the thread it is somehow less threatening for two men to be together than two women. I just find it strange that whole m/m shipping thing seems to be driven by straight women and at time's it kind of pisses me off. It goes back into the whole imposing the girl crush thing onto certain members to a certain extent. Its like patriarchal society in general seems to pit women against other women which is why everyone goes nuts and treasures the strange gay friendship RV has with Mamamoo because it is an anomaly. Seeing their friendships and their fanbases empowers me a lot because the powers that be not only want to separate them from a female demographic but from other female artists because its easier to disempower a group of people when they are cut off from other like minded individuals. It doesn't just effect the female kpop idols directly but also the female kpop fans who often times unrelentingly and irrationally target girl groups partly because of this. Its like they believe that women can't actually be strong, powerful, and charismatic and so many of them seem to be in this bizarre state of denial male and female. The only way they can possibly rationalize these emotions that they don't recognize, don't want, or are too scared to admit are real is by giving the concept a hashtag and using these distinctive, real, and unconventional but completely natural identities as trends. They appropriate these things so that they can impose their own standards onto them and undermine their legitimacy. The girl crush concept works but even Mamamoo wasn't pushing the whole girl crush thing at the beginning and they were singing about loving men which is not a bad thing but thats definitely a wise marketing choice for debut because the general public expects those concepts. I also feel like BP, Mamamoo's, and RV's girl crush style works because its not in your face, and its obvious they aren't really trying hard to a certain extent they just possess the presence that makes it possible to attract both genders. They attract female fans because they are just being female's, each in their own special way, I will concede that people tend to think of hip hop and YG style as the more fit device for the girl crush concept the whole baddest female thing but thats been proven to barely work if its not executed properly. It more about delivery but companies don't see that, they only see labels and quick money and thats a shame. These are just thoughts and frustrations I have and most of them were triggered by Kai belittling girl groups last week made think a lot about this.

I've been watching the WJSN Cosmic Diary and Eunseo pings me pretty hardcore, and she does seem to get along with all of them pretty well. Its just the way that she interacts with them sometimes that sets my radar off, for example Eunseo mouths the words to Jungigo's "Some" to Bona around 40:20ish holding her hands and looking deeply in her eyes in episode 5 of Cosmic Diary. Interesting part is the way that Bona stares back at her and Cheng Xiao stares back in the same way. They give her those heart eyes and seem completely into whatever Eunseo seems to be doing or other gay stuff so they ping me too. She's definitely a chic magnet...because she's kind of gay with all of her members and like unnecessarily so in way it just seems gay. Receipts: - 40:20I can't figure out which member this is for sure but it might be Soobin. On a side note its confirmed Xuan Yi is gay, she is married to Mei Qi and they are the richest couple alive. Did everyone just forget this treasure? In all honesty Xuan Yi pings me but its hard to explain exactly why she pings me.

There is a reason she has reached leadership level so quickly, or so they say/don't say. (sorry for the double post this just made me laugh and I had to respond).

Lesbinati members for sure them scissors are very reliable indicators, also the gay is very stronge within Twice's Japan line. I suspect Sana will become the head of the Lesbianati one day, much gay is within her.

Yes Seulgi is obviously a member of the Lesbianati (the lesbian Illuminati) of South Korea, Seoul chapter. No one's absolutely sure what their plan is, but what we are sure of is that their mission is to Enlesbianighten all women ( a fancy made up word for lesbian enlightening, or in broad terms turning women gay, or gayer than they were in the first place). You can spot a Lesbianati member by recognizing their distinctive scissor hand sign held up to their eye or not​ as members Amber and Moonbyul demonstrate in the pictures below. OR Taeyeon is obviously their leader... Short Leader Bio: She is currently enjoying the pun within Lesbianati and plotting world lesbian domination when she isn't slaying our mortal souls with her epic talents.

Why do I feel like this would be a really good low key lesbian confession song? Like...this just gives me gay girl vibes...and its gorgeous

I mean if you think about it...its not that hard to imagine is it? #delusion.... And if we squinted any harder we might be able to tell the original comment was a joke, but wouldn't it just be better if it really were Amber kissing Krystal...? I mean even if they were cosplaying as each other they would still be kissing so like its still a win even if I am completely deluded.

She could just be an ally strong evidence to suggest that she is even if she hasn't stated it directly. I kind of just got interested in BP but she sings songs about girls so much when she sings in english. It might be her low key way of being able to express her gayness when she is doing what she loves. It reminds me of how Moonbyul's lyrics are seemingly always gender ambiguous, like Love & Hate she never specify's what gender she is talking about but its not an isolated case within her lyrical works.

Okay ignore the feedback from the microphone and the overall quality of the sound in the video this is very good. I don't know why I'm surprised but he has some power behind his voice and he practiced this one a lot because there are three different recordings of this this cover that he did. He has great taste lmfao xD.

I love him xD

I personally think it's a little unfair I want to say to compare Moonsun to Taeny... I just get a different vibe from the Moonsun couple mostly because as a few people were saying Solar can be super gay sometimes. I was actually talking about Kryber, Taeny, and Moonsun and a lot of what was in the thread came up in the conversation with a friend yesterday. A lot of the time Solar doesn't initiate the gay, most of the time Moonbyul gets in her face, and Solar may act all flustered and upset with Moonbyul but you can tell that she enjoys it. Solar has said plenty of times she hates when Moonbyul gets greasy, but yet she lights up like a firework's display on the Fourth of July when Moonbyul gives her that type of attention. It's really hard to understand Solar's behavior because first off we aren't there behind the scenes obviously, and secondly and this is my own opinion I think Moonbyul confuses Solar. It's not like Solar doesn't act gay without Moonbyul because awhile ago I was reading this post somewhere else about how Solar said if she was a guy she would date Wheein or something along those lines. Sometimes Solar seems actually really attracted to Wheein, but all of the members of Mamamoo act gay af that's pretty much been established. However, If any one of the members makes Solar actually put a lot of thought and make cracks into a mindset I'm sure a lot of people in South Korea seem to have about their sexuality and sexuality, in general, its Moonbyul. There is a chemistry present between them that I don't even think she fully realizes sometimes, and may actually be confused about it. The same friend I had the conversation with is always telling me about how she thinks Taeyeon is bi and the friend explained to me that she thinks Taeyeon went through this period of time like maybe Taesic period and during Taeny where she was trying to figure out who she is. No one is going to ever get it right or be certain in my opinion, people are constantly changing and sexuality is on a more fluid spectrum than I think most people realize or at least that's how I see it personally. Solar might outwardly seem and act "straight" but that doesn't immediately disqualify her from being attracted to other women or disqualify the notion that she is attracted to Moonbyul the person. Solar seems incredibly attracted and drawn to Moonbyul, they work together romantically and look pretty adorable together. Solar pretty much said somewhere that even though Moonbyul annoys her, Solar tries to find her and basically has a desire to be with her and around her. Moonbyul also said in an interview on a variety or something that when she gets nervous she likes to put her hand on Solar's stomach and that she's so used to doing so that she did it to someone else on accident once. To me, they just gravitate towards one another, like there is some sort of magnetic energy trying to pull them together but they are revolving around a society and an industry that makes it impossible for them to actually be together openly without getting burnt or torn apart. Mamamoo has never been a conventional girl group in my opinion and thank the kpop gods they were created. I think that SM is one of the more oppressive companies and you can't compare Taeyeon's experience to Solar's because it's kind of different. However, at its core the reality of the situation is that they live in a society that wants them and expects them to act gay on the job all for their benefit, but would also stigmatize and actively seek to destroy and erase their existence if they were actually gay. Maybe Solar is really just "straight" but I personally don't believe she is, there might be something deeper going on inside of her and Moonbyul seems to be the driving force behind it. Moonbyul is definitely anything but straight and seem's like she know's what she wants more than Solar does and it's fine. Who know's whats going to happen, and even though I don't think its likely Tiffany could be gay too or at least have the capacity to be attracted romantically to another woman. I just don't see Tiffany cracking for Taeyeon like I've seen Solar crack for Moonsun. It's not at as black and white as its seem and that's kind of what the Moonsun ship is reminding me of at this point. Anyway, I came here to share this clip of Rosé stealing everyone's girl, I like how when she sings songs that are about a girl romantically and she never seems to change the pronoun or censors it to be more "straight." She always sings the song the way it is and I admire that honesty to sing the song like no one else's opinions matter, she's completely unashamed to just be real and she sings a lot of songs about other girls a lot. In one of the Vlives for a short moment she started serenading Jisoo with Te Amo it was gay, that clip above is just gay af and amazing.

Kryber addict here...if you squint just a tiny bit when looking at the still it looks like Amber and Krystal dating confirmation footage. Or this could just be a delusion brought on from a prolonged lack of Kryber and F(x) either way a girl can dream.

I started back reading the thread and had a mini-panic attack because the bad vibes were so strong in this place. I'm not sure what to say other than, can we just leave delusional people alone and let them post in peace without the fear of being crucified for having their fun? Everyone should be able to post what they want in this thread just as long as its gay, it doesn't have to be "serious" to be "worthy" to be here. Serious analysis is awesome, the last post I made here was an analysis post but I'm not going to crucify people or tell them what they should do, feel, say, or be held accountable for on this thread. Just as long as they are posting lesbian stuff that is a enough for me, express yourselves however you want. Its the bloody internet...this thread can be really fun and it is chill, so lets try and keep those positive vibes going. I also want to add that a lot of people in this thread have stated on previous pages and posts that they think Moonbyul is gay because they used to act like her when they were closeted. If I were going to compare my own experience with what I've observed about Moonbyul I get this eerily reminiscent vibe because I acted in a similar manner. The way she continuously teases her band mates and Solar in particular reminds me of myself when I used to like a girl and wanted her attention. I've not observed this with any other idol but she really screams gay to me, and it could just be an elaborate marketing scheme but if it is wow she is really committed. If she isn't gay she deserves multiple Oscar's more than Leonardo DiCaprio does lmfao.

She did the song in the ending credits of The Handmaiden...a movie about gay women by Park Chan-Wook... I really like Gain and the movie.

I agree with that, but its just sometimes she pings me and I'm not sure how to read her because she has her moments.

So...I was on a mission to figure out which member of Mamamoo was doing the whistle tones in Woo Hoo, and I just kind of concluded or assumed that it is was Hwasa. If anyone could confirm this I would appreciate that because it's been driving me insane ever since I listened to the song. Anyway, while I was searching through some video's on the YouTube of Hwasa's live performances I stumbled upon this. Basically, Hwasa sings the beginning portion of Uhm Junghwa's "Invitation" I assumed that because it was a special stage with Monsta X and Uhm Junghwa that they would all be dancing together. That's not what happened...and at first I thought it was weird but then it totally pinged me because Hwasa sings the song and dances with a group of women, while Uhm Junghwa sings and dances with Monsta X a group of boys? men? (how old are they?). It's pretty obvious the song is all about seduction and the dirty lmfao, and it was released 1998 so it must have been pretty shocking for the predominantly conservative society of South Korea at that time. What's interesting and provocative about this performance in my humble gay and delulu opinion is that Hwasa is presented as a seductress of women. She enters the stage like she's entering a club or a bar, but the swanky place is only filled with women suggesting its a gay bar of sorts or that Hwasa the seductress only has eyes for the women. It's pretty obvious they could have easily used Monsta X to do the dancing or just hired male backup dancers or just not have two distinct parts to the stage but that's not what happened. Further more Hwasa's interactions with the dancer's develop like that of a seduction, the woman or Hwasa enters the room or the stage and slowly integrates herself into the space and amongst the other's. At 56 seconds Hwasa's eyes deliberately trail over to one of the dancers and she approaches her, it's barely viewable because of the shot but she swags over like a complete vixen and makes a move on the dancer. Then at 1:12 the dancers all approach Hwasa and make movements like their hands are figuratively all over her or hovering near her which could possibly symbolize the desire for her or a beautiful woman.Then finally at 1:22 and a little bit before Hwasa gets led off the stage by the hand by one of the dancers and they all kind of surround her as they exit the stage. Suggesting that one of them or all of them took Hwasa home or other stuff I will leave to the imagination and Hwasa looks completely delighted. Another interesting thing is that Hwasa is obviously looking at the audience but she is trying to seduce the dancers with her song (or the audience, either way, it worked on me). That might be because of how into it she looked though because some of her expressions really pinged me especially when she looked at the dancer like she's done it before and has no qualms or issues with seducing another woman at all. She was so confident and completely unafraid to do it. Now I'm not sure if I'm just seeing things but that was low key kind of laden with a lot of suggestive gay stuff. I know Hwasa did a funny little blurb performance of the song with Wheein and that was also super gay. The stage she did with Monsta X and Uhm Jungwha seems like it happened after the thing she did with Wheein so I'm thinking that they made it gay on purpose because of Hwasa's performance with Wheein. Either way it may not have been as explicitly or in your face as gay, but the performance Hwasa did with Wheein was clearly a gag they did for giggles (which kind of backfired because they have a lot of chemistry in my opinion). However, this performance seemed more realistic and serious about the gay stuff despite how subtle the gay content was at some points. Anyone have any informaiton that could enlighten me more on this topic? Or a different opinion?

I read that and heard them singing it in my head.

Truer words have not been spoken but she literally makes feel faint when I look at her.

Do I have to just pick one cause... I've whittled it down to... Eugene (S.E.S)- ChoA- Nana- Hyuna....(duh...I'm weak...) Bada (S.E.S)- I'm pretty sure there are more, but these are the ones that come to mind right now and make me spazz out..

Its true is it not? I posted a picture of Hyuna looking at Amber like Amber was little red riding and Hyuna was the big bad wolf... She really doesn't need to try she's just a chick magnet. Not gay but it fits this well lolz

I don't think Amber needs lesson's on how to pick up girls they just naturally flock to her. She doesn't need to use the arm on the seat trick cause the ladies be wrapping their limbs all over this lucky lady. Example A- Example B- Example C- Example D- She is like catnip....its insane...

It's always sad when a ship goes down but taengsic was like the Titanic. Jessica (Rose) wanted to make room on the door but Taeyeon (Jack) looked like she would rather freeze to death than cuddle up to Jessica ever again. That or knock her off the door or keep for herself, some of Taeyeon's behavior to Jessica was peculiar, to say the least, but sometimes people just form new connections and some chemical reactions just fizzle out. Not sure where I read this theory and wish I could find it but I just thought it was an interesting perspective on what could have happened. The theory goes that Taeyeon did like Jessica and maybe Taeyeon told her and Jessica refused her or didn't feel the same way and it really hurt Taeyeon's feelings. In order to get over her Taeyeon of course, being a responsible leader and a human being distanced herself from Jessica in order to spare her own feelings and get over the woman. Everything that happened to them seemed very abrupt in my opinion as I looked into it after it occurred, some of Taeyeon's behavior was really weird and kind of bipolar regarding Jessica. She was mean to her one moment and then showing sympathy for Jessica's troubles the next. Jessica did try to reach out to Taeyeon though, not sure in what capacity as a friend or someone who regretted turning Taeyeon away but yeah very curious. I would be very interested in reading some other theories and observations regarding the matter. On another depressing note it kind of reminds me of Kryber marked cool down in that relationship...anyway delusion.