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When these "scandals" come up I'm just like "I am too old for this petty BS." They'll be fine, we'll all be fine, no need to get stressed out and pressed.
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I would like to apologise for my analysis on Jaehyun and comparing him to Siwon since it doesn't seem to match up. I will stop my NCT analysis right now because I believe it's wrong, and I shall leave it to those who know NCT much better than I do. NCT isn't my forte and I've watched a few series at most, including their rookie days but haven't really sticked to fan account at fan signing like most of you did, so my analysis is invalid. I will do more analysis when I've read into them more. I'm sorry
You don't need to apologize, no one on here knows the definitive truth and we could all be totally wrong. I have gotten the vibe and have said before that if there were serious gay rumors going around about Jaehyun, he'd be on WGM or in an SM dating scandal in a heart beat. I still want to know what is up with him cutting off all skinship and interaction with Taeyong whenever he thinks a camera is around...
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holy f JR's stare looks so hot in this gif
Don't you mean Ren? JR is blonde in this one and isn't really staring...
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Speaking about openly gay's debuting, why I don't know, because Eddy is not idol, but to featuring to Aoora's new project's (TROPHY CAT) song... let's anticipate!

big so

Title's seem's romantic?

Found this another picture


Eddy denied them dating in a comment a few videos ago and I was like "does Aoora know that?" 'cause Eddy is CLEARLY his muse and #1 in his life.
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Ok, I'm getting vibes from NCT's Ten... They're not major but my gaydar is definitely detecting something

You're only just now picking up vibes, lol? Ten is one of few idols I could never see in a legitimate romantic relationship with a woman.
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I've been suspecting him ever sense Hit the Stage when he was so thirsty to meet Ten and expressed his desire to get "really close with him." Reminded me of my middle school years before I understood what Sexual attraction was and was just like "wow I want to be really good friends with that guy, super close!":derp:
This:

ME.
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Ah, yes. Thanks for adding.
So homos of PD101:
1) Ren
2) Daehwi
3) Justin
4) Hwanwoong
5) Jungjung
6) Eunki
Anyone else?
Hyungseob
I also suspect the other Nu'est members, particularly JR, but not from anything seen on this show specifically.
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Sarcasm? (I hope)
Yes, definitely. I won't get into how much using ally-ship as an identity in the community grinds my gears.
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SO i know someone posted it but we not gonna talk about this? He pose like this!!! On purpose!!! My dude tf lol i love it

That's just our Jackson being an awesome "ally," normalizing homo-eroticism to make the world a better place for us gays everywhere! Still hetero tho

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Hi, I'm a new fan thanks to Produce 101. I had heard for them but never listened to any of their music until I saw them on the show and out of curiosity I checked out their last two comebacks and was SHOCKED at how good they are and don't get why they aren't more popular (other than obviously bad management and promotion). Because I love an underappreciated underdog, here I am!
I think for Nu'est's future success as a group, it would be better for them to hover around top 11, do well in their performances, but then not make it in an "upset." Then turn around and have a comeback so they don't lose momentum and the surge in attention.I have a conflicting feeling about wanting nu'est boys got into top 11 or not because i don't want nu'est have a long hiatus again :'/
What do you guys think? What is the best scenario for Nu'est according to your opinion?
There are some people like me who became fans by going back and liking their previous work as a group, but there will be a lot of people who may just end up liking individual members and will support whatever that member does but not necessarily the group. So say Minhyun gets a lot of new fans through the show, doesn't make Top 11 and goes back to an active Nu'est. Those fans will support Nu'est in order to support Minhyun. But if Minhyun makes Top 11 and is promoting with them for 18 months, those fans may not also support the activities of Nu'est that don't include him. JR, Baekho, and Ren could accumulate individual fans that together could boost the group and carry them through until Minhyun comes back, but what if JR also makes Top 11? Those two are currently the most popular on the show and play crucial roles in the group the other three may not be able to make up for. Also consider that Aron isn't there and doesn't gain any individual popularity boost. And who knows how committed those fans will be to wait around while their bias is on hiatus.
It really depends on how they leverage the attention they get. If some make it to the final group, the ones that don't will have to be active in solo projects to nurture individual fanbases until they can make a group comeback. Just don't lock them in the dungeon.
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I keep saying that BTS Jimin is probably gay, but some people still refuse to believe me.
WELL !!!, if Jimin is straight then HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN this pre-debut hobby of his ?
As Gay as it gets (and in a VERY GOOD WAY!)

Studying modern dance is not gay.
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OMG I came on here to post about this after watching Eddy's latest vlog! In fact, Googling Aoora was how I discovered this thread in the first place.Hi! So I've been reading here for a little while and normally I don't have anything to say, but today I have something to say! I'm really curious about Aoora from AA recently and I can't find the info I'm looking for, maybe somebody here can help

There's this youtuber that he's been acting very (VERY) close with called Edward Avila, and so of course everybody ships them (me too kinda but I'm not sure about Aoora's personality so I can't say for certain), but something caught my attention in the comments.
Some people have been saying that Aoora is married, but when confronted they disappear or say you can find it on google without providing proof. When I search in English, Japanese, or Korean I can't find anything. Normally I would think this is just "oppa isn't gay" lying, but it's nagging me. I always thought he was gay even if he isn't secretly Eddy's boyfriend (even if he acts like he's secretly Eddy's boyfriend)...
I need receipts about this boy

If you're interested, reasons why people think they're dating:
- Sexual tension and flirting, especially around the end of 2016 (beginning of Aoora appearing in videos)
- Eddy is Aoora's fan since even before he was in AA
- Lots of skinship, including back hugs, unnecessary touching (including face), and sitting in lap
- Aoora always dresses nicely to see Eddy, but that might be his personality?
- Accompanied Eddy to the airport (2 hour drive each way) just to say bye before Eddy's 2 week trip
- Accompanied Eddy to the clinic twice when Eddy got his nose job and had a care appointment after
- Got Eddy a gift on one of the clinic days and they did date type stuff
- At one clinic visit Eddy didn't show who he went with but he didn't go alone, then when he was home he suddenly had a fresh hickey that he did a bad job of hiding, and he was still pretending to be alone even though at one part you can hear a guy laugh where he missed the editing (and it sounded a little like Aoora but it could be anybody with a similar laugh)
- Aoora is VERY attentive to Eddy
- He really likes filming Eddy
- Eddy keeps liking comments calling them a couple
- Aoora went to Malaysia with Eddy for Eddy's award nomination thing and they shared a hotel room
- He shaved Eddy's legs for him at the hotel (??? why)
- Aoora is married (??????)
- "Friendship goals"?
- Both bottoms?? (I think this is a stupid reason but it's funny)
- Fake shipping for attention isn't just for straights
So what do you guys think? Is Aoora straight and married? Is he gay and dating Eddy (or not dating Eddy)? Is he bisexual and married and Eddy is his side ho?

PS Sorry for my English I'm a native speaker I swear

The first I saw anything of them was when Aoora (took a 2 hour bus ride each way) send Eddy off to the airport. In the comments everybody was shipping them and I didn't get what the big deal was so then I went back and watched this:
...and I knew then that they were screwing
I'm subscribed to Eddy's channel and watch most of his vlogs, especially the ones where he is hanging out with his friends (because I don't care about the beauty stuff) and he does not act the way he does with Aoora, with any of his close male friends, even the gay ones back in California.
I also don't know how else they would have met and start spending time together because they don't seem to have mutual friends. Aoora is like the boyfriend your friend bringredients from outside the group no one else is friends with and won't be hanging around when the relationship is over.
Eddy is being a little troll though liking all the comments about them dating. They're like a less prolific gunheechul.
Don't think Aoora is married because I haven't found anything to back that up and the people who say that never cite any evidencevent and can't say when or where they "heard" he was married.
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Well, since we’ve always discussed here and there throughout months but few people ever did an organic analysis on NCT, I decided it was time lmao. Mostly because my opinion on some of them changed when I got to observe them more.
It’s a LONG ASS analysis, but I want to post it so that I’ll quote it for future days to come without having to rewrite all of it again and again.
If you think I suspect too many members, just remember that these a pure speculations made on observations of a really filtered behavior, so I might be completely wrong.
I also think that, in general, bisexuality is much more common than one would think and a rookie group of 10+ boys living together is the perfect context for it be expressed. Unfortunately, I have to base most of this on members/members interactions because NCT hasn't had many appearances anywhere else.
Warning: it's really long.
Ten: GAY (and proud), Ok, he’s been discussed multiple times and everyone here agrees on him, but people who don't know the group might not understand (duh) + some fangirls are not really convinced (DUH).
- Shows no real interests in girls, but becomes immediately their best friend.

He had a "supected girlfriend" before debut, Primmy, but thai fans say they were only best friends and I can totally see why.

Moreover, Bora targeted him as a "little sister" after a few HTS episodes (I know, misgendering is awful, but what can we do.),something Taeyong had already done previously.
- No answers to the “which girl is your ideal type†till after debut

- An hardcore Big Bang fanboy (their posters all over the room and had their gadgets). Being a fanboy doesn't say anything per se, but in this context...
- “I wanna have xxxx with you, fatass! Love you forever darling!†(aka the straightest birthday message ever.)
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- Ten’s teacher: “Ten wasn’t interested in girls†+ panic attack after that.
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- overall mannerism. I should quote all his life here, so just check him out.
- trying to lick his bro's finger.
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Hansol: Gay. Well, there weren’t many occasion to see how he behaves around girls tbh, but for the few times I can recall in the Rookie shows, he really didn’t give the smallest spark of interest.
Overall Hansol -and the fact he hasn’t debuted yet doesn’t help- is a shy and reserved boy, but for some reason he pinged from moment 1. Which was this one, by the way:
- The way he acts around boys, especially those he’s close to (Yuta/Ten)....it's nothing in particular, just that overall feeling.
- the drag queen photo. people say it was a show for his dance school, but still…

- He was introduced to SM by Jonghyun. Ok, isn't really a thing, but deep inside we all know it is.
- This mysterious pre debut tweet:
Bonus:


(this is a "summary", but there are more interesting pics about him in this thread!)
Yuta: straight or bi. Yuta is quite a complex matter. If, of all idols I know, I had to pick the one Yuta’s personality reminds me of the most, I’d say Heechul: blunt, honest, quite gloomy, undeniably smart, likes to fool around, likes to diss his own company (lmao.)
And Yuta’s smartness is exactly what makes him quite difficult to read, because you never know when he’s just being honest or when he’s playing around with his answers and actions.
Let’s go step by step:
I’m pretty sure he likes girls. He mentioned them more than all of his bandmates together (and even mentions marriage a lot, when asked “which member would you like to spend the rest of your life with?†he answered “none, I want to live with my future wife foreverâ€), and during idol party I could see a hint of interest for Sorn
(ur right man, she’s hella cute.).Add that to the fact that he shamelessly flirts with his fans at fan signs, and well.
During abnormal summit he’s said many progressive things (demonstrated interest for transgender rights, spoke against gender roles, voted in favor of women giving their surname to their children), and even after debut he’s given an hint of openness (e.g. he was the only one who said he’d like to be born again as a woman), but on the other hand, whenever asked about marriage, he gives the most conservative answers. But again, I don’t know if he actually thinks that or if he thinks it’s just better to answer like that. I know that being conservative has nothing to do with one’s sexual orientation, but I’ve seen more than one person thinking he’s some shade of LGBT due to his ideas and like…just be careful lmao.
Regarding the reasons why he could be bi:
In general, he’s not the greatest pinger,I must say. He doesn’t like excessive skinship unless he’s really close to the member (Taeyong, usually, and Hansol back in pre debut days), but that is attributable to his personality.
But there’s one member that changed my views on Yuta: yes, him, Win Win. When I first saw Yuta serving the most obvious fan service on earth, I immediately thought “Oh look who got that ships boosts your popularity†and I thought that yes, they’re close but he’s just exaggerating everything for camera purposes. (before someone misunderstands me: I’m not bashing him, I actually love him as one of the smartest members lmao)
I must say I had to change my mind: he’s actually obsessed with Win Win, to the point he sometimes makes me uncomfortable.
He’s always checking him out, seeking for his attention, tries to kiss him on any occasion, looks at him with sparkling eyes, he gets really jealous whenever Win Win interacts with other members.
One could say “ok but he just sees Win Win as a younger brother he wants to protect†but I strongly disagree: Win Win may be childish and all but he’s a grown ass 20 years old boy.
Unless he’s really good at faking interest on camera (which could still totally be), I think it started off as a fan service thing but Yuta actually got a bit caught lmao
I’m not implying that there’s anything going on, just that…Yuta may not be so straight after all.
Another thing to consider about Yuta is the fact that he was an hardcore TVXQ fanboy, that’s why he got into singing and, eventually, into SM.
Being a fanboy of course doesn’t equal being gay or whatever, but he mentioned more than once that when he first saw them he thought they were extremely handsome and was mesmerized by that. We’re talking about 14/15 years old Yuta here….so, yeah.
Johnny: bisexual. He likes girls, at least that’s what the echoes of his long lost pre debut twitter say, and honestly I can totally see it.
But I think he’s bi for various reasons:
- his closeness with Ten, to the point he’ll shower with him. Before you argue “but showering between boys is normal in Korea!!1â€, Johnny is an American dude.
- he always flirts with Jaehyun, which one could say “staged afâ€, probably, but Jaehyun is often uncomfortable with it and not always he’s reading off the script. Flirting with boys and making questionable statements seems kinda natural for him. (please check on this thread for receipts, I'm too lazy to search back to all of them now lmao)
- Checking out boys: I honestly don’t know how to provide visual support to this, because I should go back to all the videos I’ve seen and try to find all the exact moments, but if you pay attention you’ll see him checking out his bro’s butts more than once lmao. Also, Idk if it was just my impression, but during one of the recent episodes of ENaNa I think he was totally appreciating Astro Eunwoo’s looks.
7:33, 10:03 and onward.
- Add these to the fact he was heavily rumored to have dated Sehun, which he supports with statements like “I can’t manage to call Sehun “hyung†because we were too close†or “I was really offended when he mistook me for Jeonghan, we’ve known each other for so long†, and well.
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Doyoung: Straight. Ok, some of you may be like “WHAT†due to Doyoung’s mannerism, but let me explain.
He was the one who pinged the most after Ten, at first. But after giving him a close look, I must say there’s not much to back up that thought.
What had made me wonder in the beginning was the fact he always craved for boys’ attention, but I must say that he craves for attention in general.
Not really indicative, but he actually grimaces at many homo moments.
He can get affectionate with members he’s comfortable with, like Taeil, but overall I must say he doesn’t ping me as much as he did in the beginning.
Taeil: Straight. He’s shy, reserved and overall difficult to read because he doesn’t easily show what he’s thinking, he’s pretty much low-key about everything on camera.
But I never registered any interest towards boys, he tends to say quite heteronormative things, so there’s nothing for me to suspect him.
However, even him fell under the great Win Win spell (lmao) and loosened up for him, but still not enough for me to change my mind.
He's not into skinship as well, but in one of the NCT life mini he was caught sitting in Jaehyun's lap, and immediately moved upon being caught by the camera. But I can't remember which episode that was, there are too many.
Win Win: *laughs nervously*….ok, not straight. Idk about girls because literally I’ve never paid attention to him interacting with them, so.
Before any of you pulls out the “he’s a giant baby, he just likes to play around etc…†he’s 20 years old, he’s not a fucking baby.
The discussion never falls on him because of this, but honestly I think that there are two options:
- he’s straight and he just likes getting the attention.
- He isn’t straight and obviously likes having all the eyes on him. He always does things for the others to pamper him and treat him like he’s their little prince, including acting cute, and it works perfectly. I honestly can’t see this as straight.
- Win Win has been a dancer since forever, having attended prestigious traditional dance schools, and we all know that the artistic environment is relatively more open compared to the rest of the world.
Plus, he responds more or less with everyone, but he gets especially playful with Jaehyun:
Kun: not enough evidence. Ok, I literally have so little to analyze him, apart from NCT life in Seoul.
In that occasion I could see him being interested to Jaehyun, tho. He was the one who made the “me and Doyoung slept together†joke as well, but we seriously need him to debut to have more receipts.
There is this interesting predebut picture that pings me for some reason, tho:

Now, to the tough two lmao:
Taeyong: bi-curious. Or better, he’s a really difficult matter because the boy is on constant damage control. Due to his scandal, SM rarely sends him off for anything other than NCT schedules, severely limiting his interactions with girls.
During fan signs he’s an absolute grease with his fans, but again, he has to be a good boy.
I think that, when speaking about Taeyong, his personality has to be taken into account: he’s a really anxious, competitive but overall insecure (and the scandal only made that worse) person, so if he’s anything other than straight, he’s probably not easy about it.
He’s also a very “closed†person, never went outside his quarter basically -despite being born in Seoul- , so I wouldn’t be surprised if he never even considered the option till he got into SM.
- Overall, he likes skinship with those he’s close to: Jaehyun, Yuta, Johnny. With Jaehyun it gets particularly interesting because I honestly can see the tension between them (but I don’t think there’s a secret relationship going on, I’m sorry Jaeyong shippers lol).
- Another thing someone pointed out, it’s that he often writes his lyrics with gender neutral pronouns.
Another element to consider (which isn’t really a thing, but if one wants it may be helpful), he’s an atheist.
bonus: actually, I think this could be a proof on its own:

Jaehyun: bi-curious or bi. At least.
Jaehyun is the good boy among them, only child of a family that expects a lot from him, his parents monitor him closely.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he felt a bit suffocated by this environment (he indeed said that, during he New Year’s vacation, he went back to the dorm because he missed it.) so again, if he’s anything other than straight it must be not really easy.
Again, here, I think things changed from when he joined SM and NCT. He got in contact with LGBT members, started experimenting skinship and he definitely likes it.
He gets very touchy with Win Win, with Ten (the recent NCT Life was honestly a blessing- see in the Ten section), and yes it could be totally playful, but I don’t see why he shouldn’t be interested in it as well.
Plus, I can’t manage to forget this slip:
He basically asked Doyoung to date him, and no it wasn’t for the camera because the birthday message wasn’t supposed to be shown anyway.
Maybe he was joking, could be.
……But Doyoung also gave it away that Jaehyun constantly flirts with his brother.
He probably just wants to be part of the familyHe also gets really flustered when Johnny flirts with him (be it scripted or not, it’s quite strange for Jaehyun.)
So, yeah, there's material to think the boi might not be straight. He’s only 20 and he keeps on giving more and more, we can only hope for the future.
Mark: straight. other than his relationship with Haechan, I don’t have any reason to believe he’s anything other than straight.
He likes girls - source: mickey mouse club and I caught him checking on Yeri once (the gif was better but I can't find it)-.
Regarding boys, he sometimes stares at Ten (who wouldn’t) and grabs Jaehyun’s butt, but I think it’s really playful.
The only doubt I have is the way he reacts to Haechan and the fact that Jaehyun himself tries to ship them, but I think he sees him just as a very close best friend.
Haechan: might not be straight. Mark is the main reason why I think so. He’s really attached to him and craves for his attention sometimes.
Haechan craves for attention in general, being a quite insecure kid, but I must say with Mark he often likes putting it in different terms.
It might be for fan service or he just likes joking around, but I think it might be a (really cute) teen crush.
The other dreamies: I don’t have solid opinions, not because they’re too young, but because I’m not paying enough attention to that aspect lmao sorry.
In general, they’re all pretty touchy with one another, so it’s difficult to pinpoint, so I’ll just keep an eye on them.
Jaemin and Chenle are particularly interesting, but again, I need more. If you go back in this thread there's some discussion on them.
Lucas: for the sake of completeness, let’s include him as well. We know nothing about him, but he’s Ten’s current bff (he's the one who got the subtle role as Ten's love interest in the "dream in a dream" MV:


So he might be worth keeping an eye on.
This was really long and took me ages to write If only I had this dedication with uni lmao, I hope it'll be useful.
BLESS YOU FOR THIS. I wanted to do the same thing but did not have the time to track down all the gifs and videos.
I agree with everything except that Taeyong reads as more than bi-curious to me as time goes on. I'm fairly certain he's attracted to men and struggles with it. A lot of things about him would add up if that was the case. Jaehyun gives me the same vibes, and I see the same tension between them. Their interactions aren't anymore questionable than how they act with everyone else in the group, but they make a real effort to NOT be caught on camera doing any skinship. The last couple of seasons with them on NCT Life, they rarely acknowledge each other even though we know they're close. It's suspect.
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Towards the end it got especially obvious imo. I honestly think the implication is there, that Lucas is Ten's love interest in the MV, but I doubt that this will ever be addressed
Yes, it's weird they'd choose this video to introduce him and show him pretty much only at the love lines...
...then againten and lucas/yukhei.....


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Thank you for explaining.
Sorry if this was already discussed. This is not in relation to the current series -- which I haven't been able to watch yet -- but do you all ever feel like Ten has a soft spot for Doyoung? I remember thinking that in some past behind the scenes videos where Ten was filming him.
Do you know which videos? Their interactions at least on the show the last couple seasons don't seem to give off anything other than platonic vibes on both ends. But I haven't looked into their interactions that much outside of what happens in the show. Ten seems to be the closest with Johnny then lately Jaehyun. But from what I've seen, I don't think he's into any of the other members like that.
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Yeah it was tame and there wasn't that much tension so it fell flat for me.Ten has been predictably delivering, his "oppa" at Johnny
Jaehyun is a nice surprise lolI actually thought the prank was pretty tame compared to other groups lol, and the tension wasn't that thick. I like how we got to see Taeyong and Johnny becoming worried and trying to manage the situation.
If you don't mind my asking, would you mind explaining what the prank was or pointing me to a timestamp for it on the video?
Basically Ten, Jaehyun, and Doyoung decided to prank Johnny in order to surprise him for his birthday and got the manager and production in on it. Doyoung suddenly "fell ill" and walked out of the segment so they "cut filming." Jaehyun acted annoyed and accused Doyoung of faking, then the manager came out like Doyoung was too ill to continue filming and Taeyong (who didn't know about the prank) and Johnny get all worried and try to diffuse the situation while reshooting the segment. Then Doyoung comes out with a birthday cake. It was very tame and not as tense as the onscreen text was trying to make it seem.
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I really don't want to beat a dead horse. But I'm curious as to what kind of evidence you'd be looking for, if on-camera evidence is something you exclude. When are idols on camera apart from fancams, variety shows, reality shows, and interviews?
My apologies, what I meant by my use of "on camera" was not conveying what I meant. What I meant by "on camera" interactions are those where the idol is aware they are on camera and/or are in situations that are setup or scripted to get a certain response/reaction that may not necessarily be natural and authentic. It's more about context rather than if it is on or off camera, because obviously to observe behaviors, they need to be caught on camera.
Take NCT Night Night for example:it's a late night radio show whose target audience seems to be older fangirls who want some tantalizing tidbits to be the source of "really good dreams" about the group. They are also reading off of prepared notes/script about what to talk about and when. That doesn't mean what they're saying is fake, but it could be said more for the sake of good radio/fanservice and less off-hand slip ups of his gayness, just because it isn't totally inappropriate for the context.
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For me, it was more when people would label him or talk about him like he was the epitome of gaydom. We don't need to describe him as bisexual, but we also don't need to pretend that bisexuality doesn't exist and that Heechul doesn't have the POTENTIAL (signs seeming significant to some of us) to be bisexual and interested in women.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the comment I made to you about off camera evidence was not dismissing the potential of Heechul being bi, but pointing out that if you want to convince others and make a compelling case, you need to present less circumstantial evidence that can't be easily explained away as putting up a public front for the sake of your career. That isn't a far fetched or unlikely scenario especially for Heechul who is frequently pressed about his sexuality in a way that he can't just dodge the question and would have to talk about girlfriends more than your average idol (who are not subject to the same level of rumors). So no I don't need second hand stories and I'm not refusing to entertain the possibility of him being bi, I just don't find the clips you posted compelling enough, just like I don't find the things Johnny has said on NCT Night Night as evidence pointing towards same sex attraction on his part, while not ruling out the possibility.
I don't get why all this petty drama had to ensue over this, it's not like other idols aren't speculated as being bi. And at the end of the day, none of us know these people or their sexualities, and nothing that is posted here is damaging or hurting them.
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Now...are they sleeping under the same blanket?!




Still confused about Jaehyun
I hope we get some Johnny/Taeyong going to bed footage too. The suspect crew is really delivering this season. Taeyong is night and day from their first trip to Thailand, and I love it!OT: Did anyone else find the prank weird and awkward?
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I talked in depth discussing that he has no reason to 'pretend to be attracted to women', so there is no reason for him to act the way he does. . . unless he likes women and wants to date them.
You really think an idol interested in having an active entertainment career with a major company in conservative South Korea, who is persistently rumored to be gay, has no real reason to pretend to be attracted to women in national broadcasts and publications in said country? Really?
All the things you posted as evidence are all clips from variety shows or media interviews marketed toward the general public, where there is a high incentive to fake attraction to women and leave a trail of plausible deniability with little effort. Where are the off camera interactions with women that would hint at any romantic interest?
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... those who think he's defs gay what are thoughts on him and Jaehyun then? They were so so close pre-debut and these days not so much but I think that's more just a 'keeping it on the down low' then a falling out.
I usually don't look at ships as being evident of anything since they often get played up for fanservice and come off as inauthentic, but in this case, they're suspect and what makes me think Jaehyun isn't exactly ruler straight. They really seem to ignore each other and don't openly display skinship on camera. And when they do get caught on camera they quickly pull away like they were doing something they shouldn't. Jaehyun had no problem dry humping around with Ten on camera, doing flirty banter with Johnny, slapping Mark's butt, but can't lean his head on Taeyong's shoulder with a camera around. It's like they're trying to stay on the DL and not draw attention to how close they are and I don't know why that would be unless there was something more going on between them. It's strange.
Johnny, Ten and Jaehyun at this point are pretty much being as open as rookie k-pop idols go?
Ten is literally going to dance around the question and not confirm or deny until he's ready to go back to Thailand or elsewhere. I can't get a good read on Johnny, a lot of the evidence on him is sorta circumstantial (I don't take the stuff he says on NCT Night Night seriously because they literally are looking at their notes during those exchanges). Jaehyun though seems more like he messes around but would quickly play along with a dating scandal or go on WGM if there were serious gay rumors about him and Taeyong.
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Yeah, it's interesting that Doyoung is someone who the "slightly effeminate, but straight" argument fits but doesn't have the advocates coming to his defense. Meanwhile you bring up Jackson and Simon Biles-level mental gymnastics ensue to spin his blatant interest in men into "totally hetero" behavior.agree with this post completely, especially about Doyoung lol I felt lonely in this thread being the only one thinking he's straight (not so sure about his brother tho
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Yes, one of the things that pointed towards that for me that I didn't go into in my last post was his reluctance to do aegyo. In the first season of NCT Life he was not about it at all even though he's good at it. We also know from that "Ten's like a little sister" comment he equates aegyo with femininity, and that was clearly not the image he was trying to project at the time.I've had this thought for a while as well, I hope if he is that he's accepted it but honestly I think if he is indeed not straight he definitely had problems with it, he was accused of "dragging the group down" for so long because of that made up bullshit I hope he doesnt feel like this is another way he's a disappointment/potential for scandals, he seems like the type of person to beat themselves up/blame themselves easily. I hope Johnny helps him out, before debut they listed "talking to Taeyong/Johnny" for an entire hour on their schedules (and were the only ones to do so I think) and Johnny seems like a really supportive friend, Taeyong has been the most hyper/open he's ever been ever since Johnny joined NCT127.
I'm glad though that he's loosened up and the group seems to be good for him because I don't think he had many close friends or was very social before joining SM. He doesn't really talk about that part of his life at all.
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I opened this account to post in this thread like 2 weeks ago but I keep getting distracted by all the gay tea and receipts, but now NCT is back up for discussion so...
They are bad actors which makes it easier to tell what their genuine personalities are like, but it also makes it hard to differentiate general awkwardness from ping-awkwardness. Doyoung doesn't really ping me because he seems to just be a loveable dork, like an Anthony Michael Hall character. Ten and Johnny seem like the most self-assured members of the group and comfortable with the cameras, though Ten is definitely gay to me and Johnny is more up in the air.I grew up in a culture that favours skinship even more than S.K. and NCT boys are 1) not the best actors 2)not that touchy actually, so I don't really consider it a proof of anything standalone.
Now the other two...the more I see of them individually, together, and with other members, the more my gaydar goes off, especially with Taeyong.
Taeyong is easily the most self-conscious member and really cares about his image at least when they first debuted. Now I believe that is due to a combination of factors like his general timid personality and the scamming scandal. But when he warms up and lets down his guard, his mannerisms and behavior lead me to think his sexuality could be a factor too.
Yes the way he holds his hands! I know this is testy territory to use mannerisms, but the boy naturally defaults to being soft, affectionate and diminutive. That in and of itself doesn't mean anything, but when you add in all the other evidence on this thread, it just makes it more compelling.Taeyong pings me because of his mannerisms and because he reminds me of a close gay friend. Not to say that all meek guys are gay or that gay = subdued, but he's basically a drama princess (soft voice, whininess, daintiness, and natural aegyo) and I can't believe this thread still hasn't caught the tea on it. Also, his hands make my gaydar go crazy.
I may also be projecting because we have very similar personalities and I'm gay, but Taeyong is just so interesting for me to watch and analyze.
Jaehyun is similar to an extent at least when it comes to subtle mannerisms (his hands) on top of suspect behavior.
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Which male idols do you think are gay?
in Celebrity News & Gossip
Posted · Edited by Shaandenigma
Thanks to Produce 101, I'm Nu'est trash now and came upon this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P2yXgoNIXw&feature=youtu.be
I don't think anyone here thinks Ren is anything but gay, but the group basically confirms it. Baekho was cleary trying to set Ren up to fail the lie detector and get shocked, as evidenced by his sarcastic "wow I'm so surprised," response. Then JR first tries to change the question to not be about sexual attraction, then when that doesn't work, says the test isn't accurate anyway
This wasn't the first time they inadvertently outed him either; they did it when they were on After School Club and the subject of their fanfics came up and when "male/male" was mentioned Aron and JR just turn to a flustered Ren in a supportive kind of way like they known he's gay and they're alright with it.
It's cool that they seem very chill and accepting (probably because I don't think they are all 100% straight), but it's pretty flippant and careless to expose Ren like that on camera, as obvious as he may be, which is probably why JR was trying to cover for him.
He pings me because it seems like he was legitimately into Ren and they had something going on when they were in Japan. He also just has the vibe, like the way Ten does without having to overtly do anything.