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Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Thanks to Produce 101, I'm Nu'est trash now and came upon this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P2yXgoNIXw&feature=youtu.be I don't think anyone here thinks Ren is anything but gay, but the group basically confirms it. Baekho was cleary trying to set Ren up to fail the lie detector and get shocked, as evidenced by his sarcastic "wow I'm so surprised," response. Then JR first tries to change the question to not be about sexual attraction, then when that doesn't work, says the test isn't accurate anyway This wasn't the first time they inadvertently outed him either; they did it when they were on After School Club and the subject of their fanfics came up and when "male/male" was mentioned Aron and JR just turn to a flustered Ren in a supportive kind of way like they known he's gay and they're alright with it. It's cool that they seem very chill and accepting (probably because I don't think they are all 100% straight), but it's pretty flippant and careless to expose Ren like that on camera, as obvious as he may be, which is probably why JR was trying to cover for him. He pings me because it seems like he was legitimately into Ren and they had something going on when they were in Japan. He also just has the vibe, like the way Ten does without having to overtly do anything. -
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Shaandenigma replied to love's topic in Groups
When these "scandals" come up I'm just like "I am too old for this petty BS." They'll be fine, we'll all be fine, no need to get stressed out and pressed. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
You don't need to apologize, no one on here knows the definitive truth and we could all be totally wrong. I have gotten the vibe and have said before that if there were serious gay rumors going around about Jaehyun, he'd be on WGM or in an SM dating scandal in a heart beat. I still want to know what is up with him cutting off all skinship and interaction with Taeyong whenever he thinks a camera is around... -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Eddy denied them dating in a comment a few videos ago and I was like "does Aoora know that?" 'cause Eddy is CLEARLY his muse and #1 in his life. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
You're only just now picking up vibes, lol? Ten is one of few idols I could never see in a legitimate romantic relationship with a woman. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I've been suspecting him ever sense Hit the Stage when he was so thirsty to meet Ten and expressed his desire to get "really close with him." Reminded me of my middle school years before I understood what Sexual attraction was and was just like "wow I want to be really good friends with that guy, super close!":derp: ME. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Hyungseob I also suspect the other Nu'est members, particularly JR, but not from anything seen on this show specifically. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Yes, definitely. I won't get into how much using ally-ship as an identity in the community grinds my gears. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
That's just our Jackson being an awesome "ally," normalizing homo-eroticism to make the world a better place for us gays everywhere! Still hetero tho -
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Shaandenigma replied to love's topic in Groups
Hi, I'm a new fan thanks to Produce 101. I had heard for them but never listened to any of their music until I saw them on the show and out of curiosity I checked out their last two comebacks and was SHOCKED at how good they are and don't get why they aren't more popular (other than obviously bad management and promotion). Because I love an underappreciated underdog, here I am! I think for Nu'est's future success as a group, it would be better for them to hover around top 11, do well in their performances, but then not make it in an "upset." Then turn around and have a comeback so they don't lose momentum and the surge in attention. There are some people like me who became fans by going back and liking their previous work as a group, but there will be a lot of people who may just end up liking individual members and will support whatever that member does but not necessarily the group. So say Minhyun gets a lot of new fans through the show, doesn't make Top 11 and goes back to an active Nu'est. Those fans will support Nu'est in order to support Minhyun. But if Minhyun makes Top 11 and is promoting with them for 18 months, those fans may not also support the activities of Nu'est that don't include him. JR, Baekho, and Ren could accumulate individual fans that together could boost the group and carry them through until Minhyun comes back, but what if JR also makes Top 11? Those two are currently the most popular on the show and play crucial roles in the group the other three may not be able to make up for. Also consider that Aron isn't there and doesn't gain any individual popularity boost. And who knows how committed those fans will be to wait around while their bias is on hiatus. It really depends on how they leverage the attention they get. If some make it to the final group, the ones that don't will have to be active in solo projects to nurture individual fanbases until they can make a group comeback. Just don't lock them in the dungeon. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Studying modern dance is not gay. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
OMG I came on here to post about this after watching Eddy's latest vlog! In fact, Googling Aoora was how I discovered this thread in the first place. The first I saw anything of them was when Aoora (took a 2 hour bus ride each way) send Eddy off to the airport. In the comments everybody was shipping them and I didn't get what the big deal was so then I went back and watched this: ...and I knew then that they were screwing I'm subscribed to Eddy's channel and watch most of his vlogs, especially the ones where he is hanging out with his friends (because I don't care about the beauty stuff) and he does not act the way he does with Aoora, with any of his close male friends, even the gay ones back in California. I also don't know how else they would have met and start spending time together because they don't seem to have mutual friends. Aoora is like the boyfriend your friend bringredients from outside the group no one else is friends with and won't be hanging around when the relationship is over. Eddy is being a little troll though liking all the comments about them dating. They're like a less prolific gunheechul. Don't think Aoora is married because I haven't found anything to back that up and the people who say that never cite any evidencevent and can't say when or where they "heard" he was married. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
BLESS YOU FOR THIS. I wanted to do the same thing but did not have the time to track down all the gifs and videos. I agree with everything except that Taeyong reads as more than bi-curious to me as time goes on. I'm fairly certain he's attracted to men and struggles with it. A lot of things about him would add up if that was the case. Jaehyun gives me the same vibes, and I see the same tension between them. Their interactions aren't anymore questionable than how they act with everyone else in the group, but they make a real effort to NOT be caught on camera doing any skinship. The last couple of seasons with them on NCT Life, they rarely acknowledge each other even though we know they're close. It's suspect. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Yes, it's weird they'd choose this video to introduce him and show him pretty much only at the love lines... ...then again -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Do you know which videos? Their interactions at least on the show the last couple seasons don't seem to give off anything other than platonic vibes on both ends. But I haven't looked into their interactions that much outside of what happens in the show. Ten seems to be the closest with Johnny then lately Jaehyun. But from what I've seen, I don't think he's into any of the other members like that. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Yeah it was tame and there wasn't that much tension so it fell flat for me. Basically Ten, Jaehyun, and Doyoung decided to prank Johnny in order to surprise him for his birthday and got the manager and production in on it. Doyoung suddenly "fell ill" and walked out of the segment so they "cut filming." Jaehyun acted annoyed and accused Doyoung of faking, then the manager came out like Doyoung was too ill to continue filming and Taeyong (who didn't know about the prank) and Johnny get all worried and try to diffuse the situation while reshooting the segment. Then Doyoung comes out with a birthday cake. It was very tame and not as tense as the onscreen text was trying to make it seem. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
My apologies, what I meant by my use of "on camera" was not conveying what I meant. What I meant by "on camera" interactions are those where the idol is aware they are on camera and/or are in situations that are setup or scripted to get a certain response/reaction that may not necessarily be natural and authentic. It's more about context rather than if it is on or off camera, because obviously to observe behaviors, they need to be caught on camera. Take NCT Night Night for example:it's a late night radio show whose target audience seems to be older fangirls who want some tantalizing tidbits to be the source of "really good dreams" about the group. They are also reading off of prepared notes/script about what to talk about and when. That doesn't mean what they're saying is fake, but it could be said more for the sake of good radio/fanservice and less off-hand slip ups of his gayness, just because it isn't totally inappropriate for the context. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I can't speak for anyone else, but the comment I made to you about off camera evidence was not dismissing the potential of Heechul being bi, but pointing out that if you want to convince others and make a compelling case, you need to present less circumstantial evidence that can't be easily explained away as putting up a public front for the sake of your career. That isn't a far fetched or unlikely scenario especially for Heechul who is frequently pressed about his sexuality in a way that he can't just dodge the question and would have to talk about girlfriends more than your average idol (who are not subject to the same level of rumors). So no I don't need second hand stories and I'm not refusing to entertain the possibility of him being bi, I just don't find the clips you posted compelling enough, just like I don't find the things Johnny has said on NCT Night Night as evidence pointing towards same sex attraction on his part, while not ruling out the possibility. I don't get why all this petty drama had to ensue over this, it's not like other idols aren't speculated as being bi. And at the end of the day, none of us know these people or their sexualities, and nothing that is posted here is damaging or hurting them. -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Now...are they sleeping under the same blanket?! I hope we get some Johnny/Taeyong going to bed footage too. The suspect crew is really delivering this season. Taeyong is night and day from their first trip to Thailand, and I love it! OT: Did anyone else find the prank weird and awkward? -
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Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
You really think an idol interested in having an active entertainment career with a major company in conservative South Korea, who is persistently rumored to be gay, has no real reason to pretend to be attracted to women in national broadcasts and publications in said country? Really? All the things you posted as evidence are all clips from variety shows or media interviews marketed toward the general public, where there is a high incentive to fake attraction to women and leave a trail of plausible deniability with little effort. Where are the off camera interactions with women that would hint at any romantic interest? -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I usually don't look at ships as being evident of anything since they often get played up for fanservice and come off as inauthentic, but in this case, they're suspect and what makes me think Jaehyun isn't exactly ruler straight. They really seem to ignore each other and don't openly display skinship on camera. And when they do get caught on camera they quickly pull away like they were doing something they shouldn't. Jaehyun had no problem dry humping around with Ten on camera, doing flirty banter with Johnny, slapping Mark's butt, but can't lean his head on Taeyong's shoulder with a camera around. It's like they're trying to stay on the DL and not draw attention to how close they are and I don't know why that would be unless there was something more going on between them. It's strange. Ten is literally going to dance around the question and not confirm or deny until he's ready to go back to Thailand or elsewhere. I can't get a good read on Johnny, a lot of the evidence on him is sorta circumstantial (I don't take the stuff he says on NCT Night Night seriously because they literally are looking at their notes during those exchanges). Jaehyun though seems more like he messes around but would quickly play along with a dating scandal or go on WGM if there were serious gay rumors about him and Taeyong. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
Yeah, it's interesting that Doyoung is someone who the "slightly effeminate, but straight" argument fits but doesn't have the advocates coming to his defense. Meanwhile you bring up Jackson and Simon Biles-level mental gymnastics ensue to spin his blatant interest in men into "totally hetero" behavior. Yes, one of the things that pointed towards that for me that I didn't go into in my last post was his reluctance to do aegyo. In the first season of NCT Life he was not about it at all even though he's good at it. We also know from that "Ten's like a little sister" comment he equates aegyo with femininity, and that was clearly not the image he was trying to project at the time. I'm glad though that he's loosened up and the group seems to be good for him because I don't think he had many close friends or was very social before joining SM. He doesn't really talk about that part of his life at all. -
Which male idols do you think are gay?
Shaandenigma replied to cold soba's topic in Celebrity News & Gossip
I opened this account to post in this thread like 2 weeks ago but I keep getting distracted by all the gay tea and receipts, but now NCT is back up for discussion so... They are bad actors which makes it easier to tell what their genuine personalities are like, but it also makes it hard to differentiate general awkwardness from ping-awkwardness. Doyoung doesn't really ping me because he seems to just be a loveable dork, like an Anthony Michael Hall character. Ten and Johnny seem like the most self-assured members of the group and comfortable with the cameras, though Ten is definitely gay to me and Johnny is more up in the air. Now the other two...the more I see of them individually, together, and with other members, the more my gaydar goes off, especially with Taeyong. Taeyong is easily the most self-conscious member and really cares about his image at least when they first debuted. Now I believe that is due to a combination of factors like his general timid personality and the scamming scandal. But when he warms up and lets down his guard, his mannerisms and behavior lead me to think his sexuality could be a factor too. Yes the way he holds his hands! I know this is testy territory to use mannerisms, but the boy naturally defaults to being soft, affectionate and diminutive. That in and of itself doesn't mean anything, but when you add in all the other evidence on this thread, it just makes it more compelling. I may also be projecting because we have very similar personalities and I'm gay, but Taeyong is just so interesting for me to watch and analyze. Jaehyun is similar to an extent at least when it comes to subtle mannerisms (his hands) on top of suspect behavior.