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I will always appreciate DSP Media for their no lipsync policy towards their artists. always bringing out live vocals in any stage.
but they're still shit at managing boygroups

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I have taken to watching 1X-MA performances I have yet to watch at 1.25x speed. Everyone looks impressive at that speed but the sharpness or lack of in the moves is still apparent as well as facial expression quality of course.
maybe you can watch choi jinhwa's? honestly one of the best. saw a top comment that said he made the weird choreo actually look cool and I agree he made the dance look manlier :3
speaking of choi jinhwa, I started watching more of his vids and I didn't realize he was the hip hop swag dancer that izone was praising at pdx101 the beginning
when the girls was asked who among the dancers they like best and yuri picked jinhwa. since I'm a huge yuri stan this feels like a sign that I need to stan this boy
so yeah I found my 1picknot only did this boy showcase his amazing dance and vocals during company eval he actually rap, dance, and showed a bit basketball tricks for his PR
he's an all rounder. I was a fool for not stanning him from the start :'(
he's a cutie and his blue hair is superior :'(

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Yeah, I think they gave him a X not because he was terrible but because his lack of drive when asked to do a dance or something that could increase his grade (same with Minhee). Other trainees at least tried even if they aren't good at dancing (like Yohan) or freestyling (like Yunseong).
And lol, so far the show is far from a flop
Ep 1: second highest ratings after S2
Ep 2: highest ratings in all the series
yeah I somehow forgot x101 has higher ratings than s2 but then I was still skeptical whether the viral factor would be the same or even higher than s2 given how there are less talented trainees being highlighted by mnet currently.
I just hope the show will continue to get more popular in the future.
dsfskjsd ixi sounds too similar to ioi tho right
and your guesses I'm--
i doubt they will call a boy group with possibly many underage members "SeXt" lmao
i'm surprised the yuehua perf. is in top 100
it's even higher now at 51st!
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The funniest part of this undergraded talk is that most of the guys in X didnt move up far or didnt move up at all. maybe the trainers knew more than we think.
I'm actually thinking the move of separating X grade from the rest of the grades actually made it harder for them to practice.
you see in ep 2 some of the Woollim guys that were in D are practicing in B grade's class so A-D grades are freely to roam and learn with the other grades. but with X separated from the bunch they couldn't go for help from other than the guys that are in X as well.
they said that they're given special training from the basics but because it's so basic they only practiced some moves with the trainers and still need to learn the whole choreography on their own, so of course progress would be slow.
they also can't see other grades for direction and motivation for practicing harder.
so yeah Mnet's fault.
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I agree, for example in Hyungjun's case, he wasn't horrible but they clearly wanted that sob story/redemption arc for him. In other cases like Minseo and Moon Junho from Woolim though, they are far from mnet's favorites yet they got a X when they didn't do that bad. Idk, the grading is just weird this year.
Lmao @ #nohomo. Well, some of them were actually very touchy with each other and some like Hangyul/Dohyun even kissed but was censored by produce logo lol.
Random but _Jima was out of the top 1000 on melon and it's charting at 770 now. I wonder if it'll pull a Nayana and will climb to top 100 or even 50 eventually
I think the trainers were focusing on their mentality as well. hyeongjun was clearly better but when he hesitated on showing another dance and couldn't speak up they all become disappointed and stopped asking. the same situation probably happened to more people. it's really like a career interview it's so tense you froze once and that's goodbye achievement.
year there are more couples that were touchy or had accidents but no one else embraced the skinship like our boy leehwan heret xD
hey that's great! pdx101 isn't that much of a flop after all :'D
btw I also recently checked NaverTV Top100 and there are a few pdx videos in the chart
8th Top Media performance11th OUI/Yohan performance16th iMe Korea/Sejin performance22nd BNM performance27th Dohyun's Jima fancam30th Jellyfish performance34th MBK performance41st Musicworks performance44th Yohan's Jima Fancam53rd Woollim performance61st Plan A performance86th Yuehua performancethese videos ranked higher a few hours ago before OH crashed but oh wellyay for relevancy
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Tbh. Both Woolim and Starship were criminally undergraded. Nobody in those teams was as bad to deserve an X.
tbh I agree with the popular belief that Mnet's picks are grouped in A and X. especially those in X they probably wanted a redemption story for them so they opted for dropping them to the lowest grade.
I mean, even in the show it said X doesn't necessarily mean those that are talentless or just pure horrible but the X mean they can't be judged from the usual grading, or as Dongwook said, infinite potential. And it's their job to expose those hidden talents they have (means more content for Mnet to make a story of)
I can't believe none of you are talking about Nest, they were gooooood
the dancing was really good but (IMO) I can't say the same for the vocals. they do well for high notes but for the lower ones the can't be heard clearly and there were a lot of lower notes in the song
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let us appreciate the only male couple that was bold enough to shower their love for one another during this apple rolling thingie while everybody else was trying their best to be #nohomo

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will revamp 1st post in a bit (hopefully I'll do it)
gonna put his youtube channel and twitch to the main page
for now, enjoy pics galore from his recent instagram post!







newest video BTS dionysus cover

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Awww Jinho :( I didn’t know he was ranked that low. I wanted the 2 Astory boys to pass the first cut together but yeah, if he ended in that messy NU’EST team his chances are like non existent. Hyunwoo could be at least top 35 I guess if he manages to make a good impression in the Seventeen team. Also, I’m looking forward to an Astory boygroup in the future since they did a really good job with their girl group (Favorite)
sorry quoting you again I forgot to reply over the astory boygroup talk. I sure hope the agency is in talks of preparing to debut their boygroup and have these two in them! I was a park gaeul stan back during produce season 1 so I know her journey with the company. astory seems like a reliable agency for a small company. they know where to handle their expenses and not over splurge so Favorite could stay afloat. hyunwoo seems to have quite a number of fans already so a new boygroup creation could work!
idk if you know, but Urbanworks Byeon Seongtae in this competition was actually a former Astory trainee. found out from the mixnine audition videos
it's a shame he changed companies but during that time Favorite was just established so a boygroup debut at the time was out of question ><
might as well put another dancing video of heo jinho
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his blue hair is so pretty I wish he'd have stayed with blue hair (1st broadcast premier his hair changed to ash gray and honestly doesn't look as good as blue)



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my top picks are looking messier and messier...

ppl are gonna judge me bcs there aren't any starship woollim bnm or yohan in it lol
this isn't want I want for final group, simply my favorite picks currently (I'm so sorry yeongsang you're cute but I still can't see your talent...)
reminding everyone that this was an amazing stage. he got his well deserved A but not well deserved screentime

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she deserves a place other than entertainment company's dungeons.
she should debut :(
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I forgot to hype my man Junjae!
knew him from Under19 and he always had this dark aura surrounding him
but I was really surprised with his performance video! didn't know he has a lovely R&Bish voice sounds even better than his rapping! he only needs to work on his dance (and tbh lighten the atmosphere around him) and he'll be great!
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please some upvotes
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I still don't get how everyone here don't think this is a great performance... Urbanworks boys did VIXX's Shangri-La not only they got the dance right but they have lovely vocals! Hong Sunghyeon is main vocal material while Kim Minseo has a unique voice
he’s so pretty
there’s a lot of visuals this season compared to s2there's also Urbanworks Byeon Seongtae he's really pretty and cute at the same time~

I don't get why there aren't a lot of people talking about him as well
Awww Jinho :( I didn’t know he was ranked that low. I wanted the 2 Astory boys to pass the first cut together but yeah, if he ended in that messy NU’EST team his chances are like non existent. Hyunwoo could be at least top 35 I guess if he manages to make a good impression in the Seventeen team. Also, I’m looking forward to an Astory boygroup in the future since they did a really good job with their girl group (Favorite)
he jumped a few spots from ep1 though last week he was 91st :'(
hopefully votes will start going up. I'm just hoping for a miracle that his eyecontact fancam would go somewhat viral.
the more I watch his dance the more I'm onto him and gonna be sad when he's gone

Lee Han-gyul from MBK are trending in Pann for his visuals and as a trainee in which it's hard to guess the age:
https://pann.nate.com/talk/346441498 - his gifs/photos are on this link. i'm having hard time copying and pasting images here.
btw the half of the stuff trending on Pann these days are about Produce X

awww so glad Hangyul is getting his pann posts! he deserves it!
Is there any F to A or vice versa?
there's Tony that went from A straight to X.
only a few got out of X but they only go as high as D
the biggest jump would be Kim Hyunbin from D to A
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IT'S OFFICIAL MNET IS ALLERGIC TO TALENT
why are these good to great performances aren't aired even mentioned on broadcast

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He is really good looking omg.
But I just checked he dropped to 51th, wut
yes he dropped so much he's only a bit above the cutoff line :'''(
that's why I'm hoping the seventeen teams will be shown this week. he's the main vocal for adore u and from fanaccounts said he did well so hopefully it will give his votes a push ><
The company founded in 2016 if I'm not wrong, Donghan is their first trainee
only donghan or all the 3 that went to pd101 aka daehyun and spider boy as well are their first group of trainees?
IKR. The Astory boys already caught my attention in their intro videos because they were fun but they are also very attractive. Shame that they didn’t even aired their audition :/
Hyunwoo is a A+ visual but it’s pretty clear who are mnet visual picks.
it rages me since their company perf should've been amazing bcs hyunwoo got B and jinho got C and both are in B after reeval... these gems mnet are not showing to us...

so did more digging of astory boys this time fox guy heo jinho.
turns out he was in a dance academy called STC academy in 2017 (with ex-hnb park hyungjin) and there were some dance covers uploaded. my favorite is Energetic
he's not playing around when he said he looks like a fox. his eyes are so sharp when dancing and there's this part where he's literally teasing us the viewers...


also, here's his jima fancam video!
(go to 3:52 for a bonus of byeon seongtae doing the wrong dance which is not found in his own fancam
)sadly he's ranked 89th and I can't imagine him surviving 1st elim since he's in the disastrous nu'est teams... he's in where u at and the main vocal. he did great according to fanaccounts but the other main vocal doing baekho's parts was the X kid lee taeseung and it was disastrous...

hoping he can somehow have impressed the audience enough to get the most votes


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I've been into the astory boys for a while but just recently started digging pictures and tbh jeon hyunwoo is visually attractive




highkey hoping the Seventeen cover teams would be shown this week. I really wanna hear his voice since he's Adore U's main vocal

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just backtracked a few dozens of pages from last week and I see this gif being used a lot lol

also, I saw preshow Eunsang with black hair? is it just me or does eunsang in black hair looks so much like younger taemin I can't believe my eyes lol
Right now NO agencies wants to touch seobin well, except for MBK lmao would not be surprise if ‎Kim Kwang-soo sign him
or Maroo might snatch him. they did still keep han jongyeon in the agency despite his iljin rumors that made him dropped out of broduce (though he's now gone and already debuted in another company under lucente, not that I'm complaining :3)
either way both companies are sketchy af
me creepin up on dohyun's old videos is already a sign lol
https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObp0yh0HfY
if only dongpyo picked him for the nct team, he actually sounds like mark
It has been decided, this group NEEDS Dohyun.
Y'all better add him in your picks, this kid is a walking talent.
and to think that was when dohyun just started learning to dance. his improvement rate is off the charts!
Can somebody help me?
S1 Chinese/TW/HK: Ng Sze Kai, Pinky
Mixed: ?
Jap: Ariyoshi Risa and ?
S2 Jap: Kenta
Chinese/TW/HK: Jungjung, Justin, Lai Guanlin
Mixed:?
S3 Mixed: Alex
Chinese/TW/HK: Wang Yiren and ?S1 Chinese/TW/HK: Ng Sze Kai, Pinky
Mixed: Somi and Kim Dani. there's also actually one more Katherine Lee
Jp: Ariyoshi Risa and Niwa ShioriS2 Chinese/TW/HK: Jungjung, Justin, Lai Guanlin
Mixed: Samuel
Jp: Takada Kenta48 Chinese/TW/HK: Wang Yiren and Wang Ke
Mixed: Alex Christine
not to be rude but I'd preffer Sunho to not make it to the group, it's not like he's adding too much to the group
atleast jisung was good at variety shows
I like Sunho but also don't think he's right for the group. for reasons that were already mentioned before is that he needs to do mandatory military services in 2 years from now and the final group's contract would be 5 years so it'll be a waste
speaking of someone like jisung
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wow thanks for pointing out because
dohyun had the biggest raise in views out of this top 3 from yesterday to now (I had to go back to my other screenshot to check)
72k -> 96k
and just now his view has gone to 102k views. it gained 6k views compared to the rise of minkyu only 1k and yohan 3k.
he's really appealing to the produce fandom so happy

someone posted rumoured reeval grades on reddit
beware of spoilers if you dont wanna know lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/BroduceX101/comments/bnpey0/rumoured_grades_for_the_reevaluation/
how accurate is this list? I feel like too many got demoted to X and only a few got promoted from X but all of them got to just D
also both astory boys heo jinho and jeon hyunwoo both have final grade B (with hyunwoo staying and jinho rising from C)
I'm feeling flashbacks from gaeul in season 1...
Astory trainees all possess the skills but lack the appeal so they are doomed of screen time


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so it's only focused on movies? hope there will be anime series as well in the future. I need Saiyaku wo Boku o Suki Sugiru turned into an anime ><
also it's 2019 and there's still 0 anime adaptation of yamamoto kotetsuko's works

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Jisung and Woojin both have height in their favour as well so it's really hard to say they were in a similar place as Suhwan. I think more often than not, MNet usually has a concept for the group and they will pick those who will suit the image they're looking for hence why I feel Suhwan might not be one of their first picks... But hey, I do hope you're right.
suhwan and sungwoon literally has the same height. now it just comes down to whether or not he's gonna be well liked by the fandom and gp
also honestly speaking daniel wasn't visually attractive to me but he has the body language and the dancing skill that makes himself attractive. suhwan doesn't lack in vocal or dance also looking it spoiler fanaccounts he's well liked on the stage (I read someone said he's like Usher trapped in Woozi/Ed Sheeran's body lol)
we can all hope mnet can see the good in him and put him more on screen so more people would vote for him
lol poor guy

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but I have faith he's gaining more votes and is going to jump ranks and hopefully go over 60. his new performance video from the company evaluation gained quite a lot of likes compared to his previous videos. he can't go yet
just putting this here again
I'm currently watching the rerun of Special VLIVE Countdown and honestly it's so cute and entertaining.
makes me wonder if Mnet will be kind enough to host special vlives of a group of trainees like survival show The Unit used to do. it was honestly what made me love The Unit as the best survival show it was never dry of updates ><