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Taemin and hoshi here lol specially in the end "It's okay, i like That... You can call my name anytime" And "i feel like i could date him"

Did people on here witness what happened with Holland today ? He posted this and then deleted it after being bullied by crazy vkookers. It's really disgusting and infuriating that an actual Korean gay man cannot even speak out against the harrassment he's been subjected to by insane shippers for YEARS. I saw the qrts and many vkookers who otherwise claim to be parangon of support for LGBT people were throwing thinly veiled homophobic insults at him for daring to call them out. And I hope no one will quote me by saying that what Holland did was wrong because he supposedly wrote down the names of BTS members and involved them in this issue. Because he did not ! He wrote down a SHIP name and called out SHIPPERS. And he was damn right to do it ! Those people really don't give a fuck about real queer people working in the idol industry and their feelings. I already knew it but I'm tired to see them being shielded again and again. But what can I expect when even their boys getting into dating scandals with women didn't stop their madness and delusions

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Bruh, you must've not listened to Mamamoo's ad songs They make songs for brands that make fans and public think it's a cb song

that shouldn't be a surprise since a lot of 1D stans become bts stans after the whole 1D hiatus/disbandment

Pure insanity I hate the fact that idols/korean artists are always pressured to apologize for every single action that people somehow find offensive even if they didn't say or do anything bad. That was a perfectly appropriate tweet. It's so infuriating to see him placate this group of terminally online losers who should have their internet access cut off a long time ago. I know it'll never happen but I really want to see an idol tell these people to fuck off at least once in my life. And many comments under his apology post are still trying to drag him! Nothing will ever convince me that shipping isn't a net negative to every single fandom in existence. Stop dragging other people into your delusional fantasies.

I mean in SVT the only ones who are speculated to haven't touched their nose are Mingyu, Woozi and Vernon, no? That's like 10 out of 13 having something done to their nose, which is a majority of the group. And they all touch their face one way or another anw... Well the whole industry is. It's sad but it is what it is - a lookism industry within a lookism country. Imo SVT and many idols around their age are starting to feel the effect of aging and their unhealthy lifestyle on their face, and are trying to "correct" them via surgeries or fillers/botox. I just hope that they go lightly with those things, no one looks good with too much work done on their face. But I guess it's hard to unlearn all the toxic things that were beaten into your head since you were a kid... It's funny, I think idols are really sincere when they tell fans to eat a lot and love yourself and stuffs like that, but they can't actually bring themselves to do so because of how toxic the industry they work in is.

he literally had a nose that perfectly fit his face before i literally don't get it. like, this isn't even a case of getting rid of a big nose, i honestly don't think the new one has elevated his looks. it frustates me because what was the point honestly. it's just an operation for the sake of getting one, as a now 8th year old idol. kibum did the same thing, a decade into his career and boom he got a nose job. it just saddens me to see even older idols get rid of their features when they've managed to keep them for so long

They're so cute lol

it's much better than 7 and 3d

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I'm sorry but this voice live was crazy fr T - T It's funny though because their styles in doing lives are the complete opposite :'> And apparently they took a 4 cut together and Hanbin said he's gonna post it! I felt like a freaking thirdwheel this whole live like i can't even describe the face i was making listening to it....................... shit was crazy for a few minutes there for sure Edit: Oh, and they also went out to eat gopchang together today, some fans spotted them leaving the restaurant

My heart really breaks for Holland He shouldn't have to apologize but I understand why he did. I wish this would settle the matter, but now the Taekookers have tasted blood so idk how soon they'll let this die down. Honestly, people (international fans, anyway - idk enough about the k-side) are so weird to him. They jump him for everything, even super innocuous stuff, while claiming to be pro-LGBT and supporting idols and shipping their favs. I'm not sure if it's some kind of underlying homophobia, or if it's a similar inappropriate parasocialism to the one that makes them target English-speaking idols extra intensely, or both, but god knows Holland doesn't need it. Speaking of Larries, I thought this was interesting and prescient - Louis Tomlinson shut them down again just yesterday: And of course they're either denying his clear intended message or reacting defensively and insulting/mocking him, the very guy they ship lmao It's next-level delusion. Taekookers aren't far behind.

Unfortunately for BTS, at this point taekook shippers are as resilient as cockroaches. If one half of their ship getting caught holding hands in Paris at night with his girlfriend doesn't do it, nothing ever will. The whole thing just gives Larry Stylinson delulu vibes ...

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I think another issue is how flat her hair looks in these pictures, it makes her face look longer than it is and prob that's why we feel she looks different on top of editing and whatever she touched

for jiwoong i probably would've done either straight or in between, i'm actually not sure. i don't get when people bring up his bl work, ie the making out, solely as proof as that's acting. of course he's gonna kiss the dude, that's what was in the job description and what he was paid to do. many actors who take up gay roles are straight so i could see him as straight but supportive. but, at the same time, he was also really chill about the whole thing when asked about it on boys planet. he also didn't make it out to be some big deal in this reaction video he did, with who i think was an actress from another series of his, when asked about what that experience was like and if it was different to other series. plus, his interactions with seobin outside the drama were a bit but it might be a case of fan service, as bl actors tend to do so i hear (i don't watch bl, i've only seen one of jiwoong's). i did see the other results and i agree with them, although maybe not taerae who has the majority gay vote as i feel like he could be anything

This is the whole poll, in case people are curious: According to Twitter zeroses: Hanbin: Gay Jiwoong: "Somewhere in between" Hao: VERY gay (I respect the 5% of people who voted straight tho... own those gf delusions) Matthew: Straight Taerae: Gay Ricky: Straight Gyuvin: Straight Gunwook: Straight (Yujin isn't included b/c minor) Overall I agree with them, except maybe Ricky. Interesting to see they're coming around on Taerae, finally.

I don't think you skewed Jiwoong's vote with your one miss vote lol. From the comments in this thread his numbers seem about right. Hanbin votes are only sightly less gay than Hao, 78% vs 93%, imo Hao is so obviously gay close to Key or Sunoo levels of certainty that Hanbin seems less sus in comparison. And I agree Hanbin's gf stans are surprisingly sizeable lol. Just curious what would have been your vote for Jiwoong and did you happen to see any more of the results for the other members? I assume Gunwook and Gyuvin would have scored high on the straight meter but I have no idea what zeroses think about Matthew or Ricky or Taerae lately.

i voted on the poll but accidentally clicked the gay option for jiwoong when i didn't mean to so i may have skewed the results a tiny bit (although there are lots of votes so maybe it doesn't really matter). i found it funny yet really unsurprising that hao's votes were majority in the gay option. hanbin being more divisive also makes sense to me because he's definitely toned down his "behaviour" so to speak (not so much personality wise since we don't know if he was more flamboyant in terms of personality predebut, although anecdotes say that he's basically the same in terms of kindness if that counts to anyone here, but in the sense that he hasn't done waacking since his battle with lip j in the first episode of boys planet and even that seemed like a "manlier" version than what he'd do predebut between 2017-2020, which i've also just realised is right before he became a trainee so i wonder if that has anything to do with it like he was told by cube to chill out a bit which is sad if there's any truth to it - though this is all speculation on my part so maybe there's not), but i'm actually surprised he's still got a majority gay vote considering he has lots of girlfriend stans lmao

I saw this poll/tweet on my tl and thought of our discussions about Zb1. Even within the zb1 fandom the hyung line is so queer coded that they don't dispute it. It's funny how Haobin always score high on the gaydar meter but Jiwoong falls somewhere in the middle.

the context to this was jimin mocking the way the fans said it, and he lightheartedly said he was gonna teach them conversation skills, meaning this was all in jest. he was moving something light, and the fans were teasingly calling him manly for it, and jimin was like "if youre gonna compliment someone dont say it with a laugh" which is a fair point. this wasnt him denouncing his desire to ever be perceived as masculine, if anything, he was asking fans to say it sincerely rather than as a joke (which could be perceived as demeaning even if it was fans poking fun) https://x.com/DoodlesbySubs/status/1719132228909748504?s=20

dude she was 14 in the before picture, she shouldn't have had any procedures she was already beautiful

Jaehyun checking taeyong out

Can we talk about How gay the "creamsoda" lyrics are ??? https://youtu.be/K9efH_TZ0EA?si=f7lsmpBJdrujtVBc

Hearing the way he talks about himself breaks my heart there was an episode of going seventeen where the members were talking about how he would hide whenever he would eat something unhealthy, so that his members wouldn't see him. The thought of having my eating habits aired out to the public like that is so triggering. Also the way he shames himself after indulging reminds me so much of when I struggled with disordered eating/thinking

Thanks The results were what I assumed except for Matthew still polling as straight. After that phone call with Jiwoong during his live where he was blushing and giggling like a teen girl talking to her crush, I don't understand how fans can still mark him as straight lol. I would check the in between box at the very least. about the kiss: I remember seeing clips of the infamous behind the scene kiss and I remember thinking how real the kissing felt. I don't think most fans think Jiwoong is gay or bi simply because he kissed a guy in a BL, I think it was the "realness" of the kiss and the obvious chemistry between the couple.

As a very long time Seungkwan stan it's really evident he's very insecure about his looks, since he was a trainee. Pledis instilled some just god awful restrictive eating habits in him that he clearly really struggles with to this day very blatantly and its so fucking depressing. It's clear he's naturally a little on the heavier side (by kpop standards– by general healthiness standards the natural weight he gravitates to seems perfectly healthy) and he has developed a pretty blatant eating disorder that he and the other members talk about fairly regularly and take extremely lightly, and as someone with a similar disorder it's just awful to see every time. I'm not really surprised this has progressed to plastic surgery especially since Seventeen on the whole have recently been getting a ton of work done and Hybe's definitely got some complex about noses.

I was just about to post this here, like this is crazy to me, not only is this an openly queer artist, specifically known for being lesbian but the literal song name refrences gay relationships, and he posted it on his main account too. If you look at this with the context of all the stuff he‘s been saying, posting etc., he‘s tryna say something…