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Not sure how to interpret this lol

It looked so genuine, then in the end he noticed what he Said and tried to correct It lol I still think the same about taeyong and jaehyun... Jaehyun seems totally more confortable with his attraction to Men, is like he has already accepted that he's attracted to guys and embraced It, but taeyong in the other hand still have not totally accepted It

I’m just so tired of all the nose implants. Like… why…

All of this because of ONE song.

What exactly do you expect people to focus on when trying to determine if someone might identify as LGBT? People share their public contexts(their context was their chain of tweets, whether you agree with them or not), whether they're engaging in fan service or not, in an attempt to gauge their potential orientation because, ultimately, that's the extent of information available, leading to assumptions. Similar to how you're assuming it's all or some part of the idol culture, believing or disbelieving that is entirely your choice. So, why do you think we're here in the first place? The entire purpose is to make assumptions, and stereotypes play a role in that because they form part of the limited information we have, primarily based on how individuals present themselves. If you want to believe that almost everything is carefully calculated and debunk someone's assumptions, that's fine. However, I must inquire once again, what's the objective of this thread? Also this thread isn't going to affect a change of the entirety of the kpop fandom, we don't have that much power lol Edit: I'd like to emphasize, for the sake of simplicity, that there is no definitive right or wrong answer in this matter. Both of you are essentially making assumptions driven by your own perspectives. The other person holds their position due to their specific context, while you don't align with it because you prefer not to be seen as "gullible." Once more, it's important to stress that there's no clear-cut right or wrong answer in this situation, as it all ultimately hinges on what? Assumptions.

interestingly enough, anton is also a former koz (hybe) trainee so he might've gotten it done while under there which would make sense considering it looks like the slope a lot of their idols have gotten (i don't know about wonbin though)

aespa 에스파 'Drama' The Giant #NINGNING

Those who’ve been on this thread since Dec 2020 and watched me lose my damn mind knows what this does/means to me This is like the most Taeyong-ish way to accidentally come-out, he’s sooo …dreamily references three men (who also happen to be his group members) and then goes “oh wait not a man” alajakagsgsfa I hope he’s ok mentally after possibly accidentally outing himself. He’s quite literally the sweetest most endearing adult on earth, I would go to war for him

one of the best songs this year, seriously

yall are literally tripping, wonyoung has also always had her lip corners curled naturally, can we stop having baseless theories with no picture or video evidence?

This isn’t a direct response nor a rebuke so I’m not quoting. But as someone who used to be a Chanyeol stan like… 7 years ago, here are my thoughts: Right now I believe Chanyeol's straight. BUT I do think he could be bisexual. Definitely with a preference for women, but I can see him liking men. Just because he's so open minded. Maybe bicurious? But a lot of the stuff fans use as a receipt is reaching. This? As a League player, it doesn't really mean anything. For some years now we had this Pride event where they give you these icons, and if you use them you get the respective flag trail. However, South Korea is SO homophobic that in Korean server the Pride event isn’t a pride event, it’s called SPRING Event and these colors are to represent spring or something lmao. So it’s very possible that Chanyeol and Sehun weren’t aware of the connotation, even if they know the flags from somewhere else. This? When it’s pride month, the pride filter is like the first one in the list of filters so it most likely wasn't intentional. Even if it was intentional, it was also Sehun's live so if anything that would concur to the Sehun queer proofs. This was a thing pushed by Chanbaek shippers. If you watch the whole video you can see he’s not talking about Men x Men. He proceeds to say something along the lines of “Love is not only between a man and a woman. It can be between a mother and son, among friends", that kind of stuff. It astonishes me how many people think he's talking about being the top in sex??? (just see the quote tweets). It's about his position on League of Legends There's top, mid and bottom lane and he plays in top lane, that's it. The laugh could be because he knows there's a double implication in that sentence, or he could also be laughing at something completely unrelated. (P.S.: top lane has the highest concentration of straight men in this game, cough cough) Ok so the context here isn't really about how they act around women or dating, it was about pretending to be uninterested. The MC talks about how many people pretend to be uninterested when they like someone, and Chanyeol says that he doesn't really pretend and he's just straightforward. While this can suggest interest in men, to me it sounds a lot like "Not only in a romantic situation, but if I meet a guy I click with I'll be straightforward and ask to be closer". Tbh this is indeed interesting, so I suggest watching for yourselves and taking your own conclusions. 11:20 forwards. I looked for some proofs that he might like men that I remember seeing back in the day but unfortunately most of it has been buried and it'd take time to find it. Uhh, maybe this?

Because he doesn't conform to the gay stereotypes. I find it difficult to grasp some of the posts at times. We may not always reach a consensus on identifying someone's sexual orientation, given that our only reference points are public information and how individuals present themselves. It essentially boils down to making assumptions. The individual above did offer some context to support their belief about the person's potential LGBTQ+ status, but another person dismissed it as mere nonsense and dismissed it as pandering to fans and adhering to the usual 'idol ecosystem.' It's almost like a recurring cycle of similar opinions all the time lol

Kun from nct & wayv congratulated his gay friends on their engagement the photos are very beautiful btw.

Red Velvet The 3rd Album 'Chill Kill' ➫ 2023.11.13 6PM KST

I'm interested.

Red Velvet The 3rd Album 'Chill Kill' ➫ 2023.11.13 6PM KST

231022 min.rino_musical IG Update with WENDY

FIFTY FIFTY Keena’s Father Releases Damning Recording Exposing Ahn Sung Il — Warner Music Korea Also Implicated Keena’s father kept all the receipts. Yesterday ATTRAKT released evidence of The Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il‘s tampering. Ahn Sung Il | JoongAng Ilbo On October 20, ATTRAKT revealed an audio recording between Ahn Sung Il and the father of FIFTY FIFTY member Keena. Keena | @we_fiftyfifty/Twitter In the recording, Ahn Sung Il reassures Keena’s father that there was no reason why the court wouldn’t award FIFTY FIFTY members an injunction that would release them from their contract with ATTRAKT. Ahn Sun Il then alleges that Warner Music Korea would pay out ATTRAKT’s CEO Jeon Hong Joon a fee of “Maximum, ₩10.0 billion KRW (about $7.38 million USD)” under the condition that the CEO hands over all rights to the group’s name and royalties resulting from the group’s first two albums. This would mean that Warner Music Korea had colluded with Ahn Sung Il in their efforts to poach FIFTY FIFTY members. ATTRAKT’s CEO had previously hinted at a third party attempting to tamper with the label’s artist. Warner Music Korea has also previously denied all allegations of tampering. The news follows a bombshell Dispatch exposé in which Keena revealed how the members were gaslighted by Ahn Sung Il. In the exposé, Keena stated how Ahn Sung Il claimed he had decisive evidence that would sway the courts in their favor but ultimately provided nothing to help the members’ case against ATTRAKT. Keena also revealed that Warner Music Korea had offered to buy out ATTRAKT but that Ahn Sung Il did not immediately deliver the news. https://www.koreaboo.com/news/fifty-fifty-keena-father-ahn-sung-il-recording/

10 minutes with minimal traffic, but because I go so early in the morning there's hardly ever traffic

I know this is a Korean focused website.... But i wanted to share this video lol There have been rumours from ages ago about Leo being queer ( lot of rumours about him and Lukas Haas ) I always thought That This "womanizer" image that he created was too forced

he's got one of those faces that looks worked on. but besides weight loss & a nose job I can't pinpoint big changes from predebut through to now?

But when I was saying to lock ha ass up yall (speaking in general) was "oh no she needs rehab" THE BITCH IS A FUCKING DRUG DEALER!!!!!!! HELLLLLOOOOO?! Yall want the people shes dealing to, to go to jail cause yall got some kind of group rivalry with these people who dont even fucking know u exist but will overlook the peddler... fucking jokers.

omg han seohee is back how excitingggg

SEOUL, Oct. 20 (Yonhap) -- Legendary diva Lee Mi-ja will be awarded the highest national cultural merit for her contribution to the development of Korean pop culture, the government said Friday. Lee was chosen as the recipient of the Geumgwan Order of Cultural Merit, the highest class of South Korean cultural decoration, the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism said. The 81-year-old is widely considered the most influential trot singer in Korean music history. This undated file photo shows legendary diva Lee Mi-ja. (Yonhap) Debuting in 1959 with a single, "Pure Nineteen," she rose to stardom with the megahit song, "Camellia Girl" in 1964. She has released over 2,500 songs, also including "Island Village Teacher," "Journey" and "The Reason for My Life," in her career spanning more than six decades. Including Lee, 31 teams of pop culture artists will be given honors during the 2023 Korea Popular Culture and Arts Awards ceremony to be held at the Haeoreum Grand Theater of the National Theater of Korea in central Seoul on Saturday, according to the ministry. s[email protected] (END) Source: Yonhap News Agency

i dont know. it seems to me they are mostly joking around than other thing and usually it's the straight ones that do such things with their friends, not the queer ones. i admit that their 1st flirty interaction posted here was a bit sus to me but now seeing this constant back and forth PUBLICLY it seems nothing but fanservice. Like not much different from what 2 idols from the same group do if they wanted to flirt they would most likely doing in private not so much in public eyes

The way you just ignored the last part of my answer... Really ? When I said myself multiple times that this thread is too focused on stereotypes and ignores male idols who don't fit them ? And there's a difference between the people who dismissed here some male idols only because they're traditionnally masculine (like RM or Minho or L from Infinite) and dismissing male idols who had het fuckboy scandals or dudebros who are trying to turn their image around after acting borderline homophobic. What context did they offer ? Most of that thread about Chanyeol was indeed him pandering to fans, especially to fanboys. Sorry if I'm not a gullible stan who will take everything those idols say as the gospel when they're doing their job. I guess now we'll also have to believe they're 100% genuine when they act lovey-dovey with their bandmates during concerts or that they aren't lying when they say they only love their fans and don't have the time to date or that they're actually singing live in music shows.

too bad too late, all their promos and deals are dead now, missing the worldwide Barbie promos alone, everyone involved in this mess has no idea that this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. also, men getting greedy and trying to take all the credit while destroying lives? Tale_as_old_as_time.gif

About Bobby... It wasn't just the ideal type question

Sorry but I think you take their words too literally. I don't take idols' "ideal types" answers seriously when they're only about the opposite sex and frankly I don't take them seriously that much either when they say extremely vague things with "not just for women/men" or "regardless of gender" because idols usually try to appeal to the most people (= fans) possible. That's part of their marketing. But I guess that's just me... Anyway, I've read that thread and I still maintain my opinion on Chanyeol that he acts like a typical open-minded straight guy. Yeonjun is just a huge flirt in general though. I don't see it as proving he's bi/pan and attracted to everyone he flirts with, it's just part of his personality. To be clear I'm not saying he's straight, just that his flirting with fanboys or other guys isn't a definitive proof. I already knew all that about Taehyun. For the Johnny and Taeil stuff, I agree with @rotis that they're just joking. Ten and Johnny in particular are often really unserious (both as individuals and together). Johnny seems comfortable enough in his sexuality that Ten probably felt like he could play around with him like that. Edit : To clarify what I mean about the vague "men or women/not just opposite sex" stuff is that I'm looking at context before words and I'm cautious of how idols answer ideal types or relationships questions that are so obviously meant for fanservice. I mean, why would people even care to know about an idol's ideal type if there weren't some delusional feelings involved ? (personally I don't give a damn about my biases' ideal types). Obviously neither Korean fans nor the public see statements like Chanyeol's as a proof an idol isn't straight since plenty of idols have been answering similarly so far and got no backlash or nasty comments. I'm not going to suddenly believe a guy like Bobby is a bisexual king for answering with neutral pronouns an ideal type question when him and some other Ikon members were literally mocking the process of a queer person coming out to their parents in a conservative society just a few years ago

I wrote chanyeol as bi based on things that he has already Said himself ( It has nothing to do with shipps ) There are also very interesting things in this thread About txt... Yeonjun and taehyun were the big doubt for me, but yeonjun has flirted with other men outside of the group and It felt very genuine I thought taehyun was straight until a few days ago, but someone posted here in the thread a video that namjoon exposed that he had many jungkook pictures saved on his phone he cried when he listened to troye sivan's blue neighborhood ( and honestly, he gives me queer vibes ) about nct... I decided to put Johnny and taeil as bi because i strongly suspect that Johnny had something going on with ten in the early NCT days... Like ten writing " i wanna have xxx with you" on his birthday... You need to have some intimacy with someone to write something like this lol i wouldn't write this for someone that i Just have a crush on And about taeil...

I'm sorry but the irony of calling someone an > LGBTQ+ artist < and then dropping the "rumoured to be bi" in the next sentence I can't Some kpop fans are so stuck in this bubble they've lost touch with reality. He probs is queer, I thought so since he had drag queens in his mv a few years back, but rumours and ~vibes~ doesn't make someone an LGBTQ+ artist omfg listen to Ethel Cain or smth

Ah yes i've suspected its just minsung that make people think Lee Know is gay even though the two dont even have any sus moments anymore and jype doesnt even promote them nowadays. Also the stuff with Jonathan was proven to be a mistranslation since he actually never used any gender in his question, but Lee Know still said it was a dude and thats why he couldnt have a crush on that person. I personally think Lee Know is just really good with gay fanservice because hes comfortable in his sexuality and people mistake him as gay because of that.

I couldn't find the video but I found this translation (Korean gay men are so predictable lmao) Junseong likes Wonbin, Yeonjun, Jaechan and Hyunjin

that's how i would describe i told sunset about you, which zhang hao has also supposedly watched! and he might have watched semantic error too which is just our run of the mill BL (and i love it too) but it's nice to see it anyway

editing to add the plot of this is so ironic

I'm back again with another comment only tangentially related to the thread lol the absolutely infamous Sojang posted a clip of Enhypen Sunoo's recent vlog and captioned it "How is it different from Queen Dong-ju’s vlog?" referring to Queen Dong-ju (kinda nsfw!) the openly gay Korean drag queen/influencer(?). Basically implying that Sunoo was flamboyantly gay. It went pretty viral, with almost 3 million views & over 4k qrts. I thought it was kinda funny how a lot of the responses (at least the visible ones) only focused on how Sunoo was better looking and didn't touch on the behavior comparison at all. Queen Dong-ju even responded, though only to say that Sunoo was cute lmao I don't expect anything further will come of it, but it was an interesting little tempest in a teacup on the K side of twitter. Clearly Sojang isn't planning to stop stirring up controversies, despite her apology earlier this summer.

Yuri was in Australia during World Pride recently. Here's a video Also, she is almost always is with her "friend" Juran, who we suspect is really her long-term girlfriend. Taeyeon is a glass closet, she wants everyone to know that she's fruity. Like letting everyone know she recommending the song girls girls girls by FLETCHER, posting the bi flag colors on her Snapchat story during Pride, posting a rainbow on National Coming Out Day. She posted recently to show everyone that she watching D.E.B.S, the very niche movie that only sapphics seem to know lol Here's a video of Taeyeon saying that SNSD can be the ideal types of both boys and girls with Yuri nodding and agreeing lol

they're just doing fanservice on a level beyond the comprehension of our small human minds, no need to worry too much about it

I honestly believe that bro was high as a kite lol. And it's always these 4 along with Jaehyun who may never beat the "nct stoner posse" rumours

Onlyoneof’s KB? (He’s the one laughing)

God, it only proves how unnecessary his nose job was. Like, the eye and chin work is a given in K-pop at this point, but his nose implant is just so not it. A simple alarplasty would have given them the same effect That is crazyyy Also, absolutely off topic: so many of his old IG stories and posts are being shared online, and it really rubs me the wrong way to see so many screenshots of idols' old social media accounts. Like, why are you screenshotting every move of your classmate, just in case they become famous? And then you're keeping it for years to upload it later and not benefit from it whatsoever