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Just a reminder that idols do fan service. Saying they wouldn’t do that is very naive. Almost every entertainment industry does fan service. Pro Wrestling, western pop, actors.

yeah he watched the mv and recommended the album

Idk I mean Minsung has gotten so popular it's practically 4th gen's Yunjae. They ranked crazy high on ao3's ship stats this year which kpop usually doesn't even crack and that's primarily just western and china fans that use ao3 heavily, not even including domestic fans and their japanese fanbase who from what I've seen are also big on Minsung. Idols aren't unaware that fanservice and shipping is part of their job and that leaning into it makes fans happy and is probably considered good by their companies. To say they'd never do fanservice even if they were an actual couple seems a bit naive. I think these crazy big ships are really hard to analyze one way or the other when they're in their peak because the idols and companies have so much incentive to feed into it. Minsung do have some interesting moments especially earlier in their careers (that one of them play fighting or whatever with abrupt cuts on a couch definitely comes to mind lmao) but a lot of it that I've seen especially recently just kind of feels like close friends who like to jokingly flirt with each other, and if those friends also have a career incentive to flirt with each other, it's easy to see how it can get normalized and prevalent. Minho does ping me and I personally wouldn't be that surprised if Jisung was queer in some way but idk I'm always going to be skeptical of any of these mega huge ships holding water. Too much incentive to feed the fans and on the flip side, probably really scary and stressful for the idols to get caught if it was real which would probably encourage them to stop interacting so much.

“it sucks to look up to artists who speak up, dedicate their art to humanity and be stuck in an industry where everything is hush hush“ kevin let’s us know that he tries a lot to communicate with us as much as he can.. can’t say the same for someone else who’s getting dragged rn but anyways..

Also about exo... Based on things that chanyeol has said before i think there's a possibility that he's bi Kai also strikes me as bisexual... I have a feeling that he's attracted to Men I Would bet My money that minseok is not straight as well and about sehun: i think that he's Just gay... I know that he Denied it but is not like he would say "yes guys, i'm gay" out loud Suho is also Sus

I'm with Knetz on this one. Kpop is losing what made it so unique imo. Everything has to be associated with TikTok, dance challenges, or getting a sponsorship/luxury brand; it's so bad that the music suffers as a result.

Isn't he referring to the people who were claiming he's pro-israel? And how he can't express much political views as an idol? Not that the industry isn't also hush hush about queerness but not sure this one really belongs in this thread.

Oh im sure they do fan service, but im sure not everything they say is fanservice, like, are you going to deny there are real moments between ppl? Its most likely a mix of both most of the time. Saying everything is fanservice is really forced tho (at least for me) but im not here to discuss if Minsung is real or not, thats not what the thread is about, I just wanted to share my list of idols ahahahah

jaeyun from 8turn referencing troye sivan's new song in which he wears drag in the mv and is about sleeping with straight men (even posting the lyrics?). i remember someone mentioned him when someone else mentioned which new idols ping

Hi!! So, i ve been lurking around this thread, seeing all the posts, and i come with my own list with ppl i think that are or arent queer, purely on vibes. I do have to say beforehand: I am a minsung shipper and I think they re together (because why would you not, with the song they released) its a long thread so im gonna put on spoilers

yeah i know what he’s talking about but i was thinking that there’s a lot in the industry in general that ppl can’t say.. and that he must look up to people who can be outspoken about it as well.. though it’s not particularly relevant here.. i just wanted to say it

For stray kids i do think That hyunjin is queer and i think that bangchan is bi, him saying that he has a crush on cloud strife, he getting all flustered with minhyuk from btob on kingdom... He seems like those "i like people" kind of Guy https://youtu.be/R9qwLPwhoZE?si=2hPd0_tg1ZGpqrJe So i would say: Bi/pan: Felix, hyunjin, bangchan Gay: lee know Straight: i.n and seungmin Han and changbin confuse me a lot... I can see them being anything

[theqoo] CHARACTERISTICS OF K-POP NOWADAYS "- The lyrics are slowly but steadily becoming full English. KOR sub plz - Because the dances are getting too hard.. I think that their lives must be very tiring. Although male idols' dances have always been intense. - Female idols' dances have gotten a lot more difficult too.. - I just wish them to find a middle ground - They are just repeating lyrics of the same word over and over again - Cake Cake Cake = Gold Gold Gold. What's worse is that songs are getting shorter and this one is 2:30 long - There is no clear position aside from the leader. It's like they just want all-rounders - They never release any full albums although they bring in money. aespa still doesn't have a full album." original post: here 1. Also, can they stop mispronouncing Korean?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 2. It's like these songs were just made for Reels 3. The most shocking are 2min long songs.. 4. What I hate the most are choruses that have no melody 5. I don't need any of these, I just want them to sing live... stop with the recordings 6. I hate English lyrics the most. I'm fine if there's a bit of it but I hate when there's too much. Also songs have gotten way too short... 7. I hate English lyrics and the meaningless repeating of words 8. To be honest, I agree with them all... 9. That's why it's been a while I stopped listening to K-pop 10. Having more than 50% English lyrics is so-so https://www.pannchoa.com/2023/10/theqoo-characteristics-of-k-pop-nowadays.html

Lol, I feel like im the only one here who thinks Lee Know is straight. Hes been my bias for such a long time and i've never seen him show any attraction to men that goes beyond fanservice. Also have you seen his interactions with Minju? He genuinely seemed to lowkey flirt with her sometimes. Can someone please tell me why everyone here thinks hes gay?

PRAYING FOR PSYCHO 2.0, BAD BOY 2.0, IDC. A win is a win for CreepyVelvet.

I think kai's straight energy is more like a stage persona... Once you get to deep dive more into him you realize that he's possibly attracted to both guys and girls

I mean if the fans know and remember it than it's not like super obscure information and therefore can be used as fanservice. It's not really anymore effort than remembering a zodiac sign or MBTI of someone you know, also kpop lyrics love flower imagery.

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Presave the song Paranoia Riot Games has officially revealed Heartsteel, its newest all-boy virtual group, who will highlight the ongoing League of Legends World Championship (Worlds 2023). The boy group reimagines six beloved League of Legends champions — Ezreal, Kayn, Aphelios, Yone, K’Sante, and Sett. Heartsteel’s debut song and music video titled “Paranoia” will be released on Monday, October 23 at 8 a.m. PST | 3 p.m. GMT | 11 p.m. GMT+8 on all major listening platforms. Fans can expect to experience the group’s “character-forward songwriting and relentless energy” in “Paranoia.” “The group’s personality and sound draws inspiration from modern music collectives, and a range of influences from across genres and eras, culminating in a bold, one-of-a-kind identity,” Riot Games said in a press release. LoL Heartsteel roles and vocalists: HEARTSTEEL MEMBER ROLE MUSICAL ARTIST COLLABORATION Ezreal Vocalist Baekhyun Kayn Rapper, instrumentalist Cal Scruby Aphelios Instrumentalist, songwriter N/A Yone Producer N/A K’Sante Co-leader, vocalist Tobi Lou Sett Co-leader, rapper ØZI Heartsteel will feature collaborations with popular artists in the music industry from a variety of genres, namely the main vocalist of Korean pop group, EXO’s Baekhyun, Los-Angeles-based rapper Cal Scruby, Taiwanese-American singer-songwriter and rapper ØZI, and Nigerian hip-hop/rap artiste Tobi Lou. Prior to Heartsteel’s arrival on the music scene, Riot Games Music (RGM) had launched other acts like K/DA, True Damage, and Pentakill, all of which are comprised of League of Legends champions in an alternate universe. source the spoiler: He also said that his Cream Soda styling was inspired by Ezreal:

I don't know if he's straight or not but let's be honest, it's mainly all the Minsung influence, and even though Minsung has been rather calm lately (they seem to be promoting another ship atm) it will just stick around forever probably. Also, everyone at JYP including him are most probably aware that the fandom thinks he's gay because he recently joked that this friend with whom he did a travel vlog is his boyfriend and that he collects boyfriends, lol dude is sly because he just keeps straight up preaching to the choir. There is also that Kstar Next Door interview which makes him either unequivocally straight or unequivocally gay depending on what side of the translation people chose to believe Personally I think he's either bi or straight

Just to clarify the timeline, the reason why he spoke up about this again IS because he got dragged into it.

??????? I was not expecting this lol

Oh, you're right, I haven't heard that name in years and forgot abut them. Thanks for the clarification!

SEVENTEEN (세븐틴) 11th Mini Album 'SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN' Highlight Medley

No more reve festival WE WON

TAEMIN 태민 The 4th Mini Album 'Guilty' | Teaser Image 1

Wish all of the members has met with JHJ and sorted this out before self-imploding by blindly following ASI.

“Supreme Team” is the name of a Korean hip hop duo.

Fanservice is so wrong to say about them specifically because like 1) Lee Know is simply not like that, he will turn down the fanservice if he doesnt want to do it Also, when some specifcally tells them to do something fanservicy they froze up and cannot be normal, because its not them. I swear its not because Minsung okay, when I listened to Lee Know speaking even before knowning Han´s name, i was "oh this man has the most gay aura ever" I agree with most of them expect Kai. He just has the most straight energy ever, could you pinpoint some moments that seem sus with him?

playing literally any video game

Cha Eunwoo | Lee Felix for W Korea Magazine (November 2023)

League better release some exclusive ezreal x baekhyun merch... my bank account is banking honey so let's gooo

ezreal's bag: source

JAEHYUN

CHANYEOL 찬열 Digital Single '그래도 돼 (Good Enough)' Teaser Image # 1

JAEHYUN

231016 JAEHYUN Weibo Update "hello everyone" Translated by yunotized

Jisoo IG Update

How can this be Nana

Solo comeback is on October 31!

chanhee strai...??

Damn Baekho... literally the hottest man in kpop... i can't....

Hanbin saying he's not ashamed of any of his past performances on the comospolitan interview, I'm proud of him. An active (and possibly the next it boy) idol taking proud of his lgbtq influenced dance origins. Hope fans can finally stop clutching their perls everytime someone mentions hanbin's past performances as if it's something we shouldn't be proud of it or hyping it.