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Time for part 3, this time featuring Suho! As far as surgical changes go Suho was a pretty easy member to analyze. However there is one thing I need to clarify before I start: Unlike Baekhyun and Chen who trained for less than a year, Suho trained for a whopping six years, meaning there is a chance that some of the predebut pics I've used won't necessarily be pre-surgery as well. Just a thing to keep in mind. Suho with his classically handsome face is someone who obviously won the genetic lottery, hence very little work was needed to make him look idol-worthy. When it comes to surgeries I think he kept it simple and went for a conservative eyes and nose combo. Looking at his eyes, I think it's safe to say that he's had both his eyelid crease deepened as well as an epicanthoplasty. The first two pictures are both predebut, but we can see a clear change in the shape of his inner eye corners as well as a deeper and more defined crease. However I will have to say that the crease part could be due to the poor quality of the first pic; in all of his predebut pictures he's had obvious double eyelids, so it's possible that the only double eyelid surgery he's had was in preparation for his debut. The last photo is the most recent, and his eyelids are no longer uneven. The second obvious change is his nose. While it was rather shapely to begin with, it has since been narrowed down considerably. Sadly I haven't been able to find a predebut picture of his profile to check whether the height of his nose bridge changed as well, but regardless of that I think we can safely assume he's had an implant inserted to give his bridge more height and definition. While these angles are obviously not quite the same, his nostrils are also slightly more on display than before. Consequently he's probably had a tip plasty as well. I'll have to retract my statement from earlier though that he's had an obvious nose job around Overdose. I was so sure of that for many years but once I actually put pictures from 2012-2014 together I came to the realization that nothing much changed at all? Maybe it was the drastic weight loss and blond hair that threw me off. The lighting obviously isn't the same but as far as the shape goes I'm pretty sure it's the same. While it's overall a well done nose job, the tip at times looks slightly pinched depending on the angle: This is purely my opinion, but I have an inkling that this type of nose job won't age too well as the skin around the implant becomes thinner with age. That's it for surgical changes, however a common "complaint" about Suho's look is that he often looks waxy, puffy and pillowy. While he has naturally full cheeks to begin with it is not farfetched to assume he regularly get's fillers as well, especially around the cheek area. Here's all the procedures summed up: 1. Double Eyelid Surgery 2. Epicanthoplasty 3. Rhinoplasty featuring a silicone implant 4. Possible Tip Plasty 5. Fillers, especially to the cheeks Please let me know what you think, especially regarding his nose. I felt like I was going insane because I swear there are some more changes than the initial first nose job but whenever I try to directly compare pictures of similar angles everything suddenly looks the same to me.

I'm back with the second part of my EXO series! This time we're going to look at Chen! I actually meant to post his analysis yesterday as well thinking it was going to be quick and easy, but when I was deciding on which pictures to choose I realized his case wasn't quite as clear cut as I initially thought. After browsing some more old blogs and looking at him in motion I think I can finally pinpoint what's changed for sure. All disclaimers from yesterday apply here as well. Let's start with a general comparison: (Apologies for the bad quality of the predebut pic, all the better quality ones had him wearing glasses so you could barely see his eyes which is why I had to settle for this one.) Anyway, at first glance it kinda seems like nothing much has changed at all. While predebut Chen had a noticeably square jaw, which resulted in his face sometimes looking rather bottom heavy and a little bit imbalanced, his post debut jaw doesn't look all that much different from the front. His profile however is a different story: With SM's love for v-lines and soft, steep jaws, there was no way they'd let a strong jaw like Chen's pass. And fair enough, at debut his mandible angle had been visibly shaved down, indicating a jaw reduction. What really tripped me up however was when this was supposed to have happened. Watching their old MVs, I initially thought he had debuted with his original jaw and either went in for a jaw shave during their hiatus between their debut and their first album, or had his jaw shaved down sometime between their MV filming and debut, which would have left him with very little recovery time: This gif from the History MV shows him with his distinctly square jaw. Same with some of their earliest promo: Once he'd debuted however his lower face started to look significantly slimmer and more v-shaped, and from looking at pics as early as his Gayo Daejun performance in 2011 it was clear that his jaw shave must have already happened by then, given his mandible angle was nowhere to be found. This leads me to believe that he did not only have a large mandibular bone, but large masseter muscles as well. In addition to a jaw shave he must've also gotten botox to the masseter muscles for the desired v-line effect that a jaw reduction alone couldn't achieve. I personally believe he still gets botox shots every once in a while. His jaw isn't nearly as inconsistent as, say, Jaehyun's, but it does occasionally seem to fluctuate a bit. The other thing that stuck out to me are his eyes. Sadly none of the predebut photos I've found are high quality enough to allow for a detailed analysis, but I'll try my best: These two photos admittedly don't give me much to work with, but judging by the second pic I believe Chen already had double eyelids to begin with, they were just rather uneven and a bit hidden. For his debut I believe he's had his double eyelids deepened and the crease heightened, as well as an epicanthoplasty to get rid of the epicanthic fold: I cannot tell whether he had an upper blepharoplasty as well, it's possible but for now I'm sticking with double eyelids+epicanthoplasty only. I do not think he touched his nose either; the picture with the glasses is pretty much the only one we have of his profile and his nose bridge looks about the same height as now to me. It does look a little bit more defined in his after pictures, but it's nothing good lighting can't do so I don't want to jump to conclusions without sufficient material to judge from. To sum it all up, here's what I believe Chen had done over the years: 1. Jaw Reduction 2. Masseter Botox 3. Double Eyelid Surgery 4. Epicanthoplasty Interestingly enough he's never struck me as the type to go ham on fillers. He probably does get them every once in a while, but overall his face moves very naturally and he never looks visibly filled in. My personal opinion is that while his jaw shave is definitely one of the better ones we've seen and only truly noticeable in profile when you know what to look for, it was also wholly unnecessary. I feel botox alone would've done a lot already to slim down his lower face and balance his features, but at the end of the day it's his face and I can't say he looks bad now. His eyes on the other hand are a stand out to me, I think getting rid of his epicanthic fold was an interesting choice that paid off. That's it for Chen! As always, comments and corrections are more than welcome!

not kpop related but have you heard of scary spice and geri?

i find this clip so endearing bc of the "yes! yes!" in the background love to see zb1 hyping up their babygirlz or should i say... queenz...

About the second nose job, mama/debut era his nose isn’t really that pinched, idk if its just me but on overdose his nose seems smaller on the tip area especially if you compare to debut, it’s really subtle, so subtle that I’m doubting my eyes, I imagine that the “ trick” is the nose still retain the same shape but the nostrils/tip are slightly different. edit : I’ll add that his nose is a tricky one, sometimes you compare photos at more or less same angle/lighting and it looks the same others it seems different, I’m kinda inclined to think that he did a few tweaks that are hard to pin point, or maybe we are just over analyzing

Not Kpop related but Shinjiro Atae from the popular japanese group triple A (AAA) just came out! I'm so proud of him. Please show support and give him lots of love https://www.instagram.com/p/CvKROvAPJ55/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Armys were so nasty these past days, harassing people left and right and... look! lmao

the kakaotalk/wechat one is funny because at the same fansign ricky was asked if he uses kakaotalk or wechat with hao more and he said they don't need to use either of those since they see each other everyday

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I thought they'd at least have a stop in Atlanta and maybe in D.C.

I never really got Ken vibes from Key, but literally right after I made this post this video of Jessica singing Barbie Girl with Key as Ken resurfaced from 10 years ago so maybe I’m wrong *edit* After thinking about it for awhile I want an “I’m Keynough” hoodie. Instead of Ken blue it can be Pearl Aqua. SM please make this a thing.

only one stop on the east coast and three on the west coast... make it make sense

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This is gay4wannie's translation of the cover story in the August 2023 issue of Theater+ magazine:

Yeah I think I remember you bringing that up before. I haven't been paying as much attention to WeMe as of late though so I have no clue if she's said or done anything else that can be considered sus. Out of all the contestants, the only one that I'm familiar with that I think could be into women is Yuki. She hasn't done anything on the show to make me think that, but that one clip of her getting incredibly flustered while complimenting Moonbyul and the fact that she (along with Goeun) participated in writing the lyrics to Sweet Juice is enough to make me keep an eye on her. Unfortunately I haven't gotten anything from the other contestants, but I'm not familiar with everyone on the show anyway. Besides Purple Kiss, I'm also familiar with WJSN and Cherry Bullet but I think Yeoreum and the Chebul members on the show are straight (I'm a bit behind on Chebul content though so maybe I'm missing something). I'm also looking to get into Rocket Punch and H1-KEY so maybe I'll find something as I go through each groups' content.

WENDY for Theatre Plus Magazine (August 2023) Wendy expressed her feelings about her upcoming musical debut, saying, "I think I always had a dream about musicals in my heart. There was a small seed, but I felt like I couldn't fully water it until now. I'm so honored and grateful to start this wonderful opportunity."

Elly is really into women's volleyball which seems a tad sus to me but apart from that I don't have anything

loona members are a bit notorious for fluctuation with fillers, but mainly jinsoul and kim lip. heejin has definitely done her eyelids, they are artificially deep. the other two.. not sure, we do know hyunjin got a mole removed predebut if you count that ugh, sihyeon was stunning around produce 48 and even past everglow eras. her lips were perfect for her face i wish she would chill. i hate this lip filler epidemic in kpop. also anyone have any theories about e:u's recent work? many were talking about it maybe 1-2 months ago how she looks so different but pretty but can't pinpoint the exact differences.

So proud of him. And is good to know that the members awas there to support him i am not a AAA stan but I love many of their songs. unfortunately they don't seem much active lately as a group but more individually (i mostly follow Nissy and SKY-HI solo careers) i will definitely check his new song. i remember that i like "i cant stop", "Follow Me", "Say My Name" and "How We Do It" Is he the 1st j-idol to come out or there is more? i hope this trigger a revolution and more will feel safe to come out edit: i went to check the IG link and noticed LOL members liked his post did you guys noticed more j-idols that you guys follow that are publicly supporting his coming out?

Is it just me or can you see the nose bridge implants from a head-on angle in this video interview of NewJeans? I see this weird line on each of their nose bridges except for Hyein ( understandably as she's the youngest so she doesn't appear to have any cosmetic work aside from the large veneers). What kind of lighting does this? I've been into kpop for 10 years now and I swear that I have never seen this--I am shocked! A picture where you can see what I'm talking about, look at the line down Hanni's nose. And this is apparent for 4/5 members in the group if you watch the video.

Welcome to Kpop! Where all the numbers are made up, and the votes don't matter. Is it really success when it's dishonest? Is it actually an achievement when it's not earned?

OMG I'm so excited

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