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the thing about key never having dating rumors with female idols is that he has many female idol friends and he openly spends time with them without anybody even wondering if they might be dating. he couldn’t do that if his vibe wasn’t obvious even to mostly ignorant people

other people quoting some more superficial things but honestly it’s how connected he is with the gay community in his personal life. take a look at his close friend group and they are all connected, with many of them openly out; fashion brand owners, cafe owners, restaurant owners, drag queens, stylists, hair stylists, etc. (by the way his supposed bf is close friends with an openly gay tiktoker who went over to key’s place for dinner wishing “happy 1000 days” but that is for another day…) gay rumors since he was a rookie, sightings at gay clubs/bars since he was of age. general consensus on queer k-twitter that he is gay and they’ve heard stories about him. love and support for queer media, spaces, and icons. look at the places that he actually goes to. look further and you see that they are owned by queer people themselves. what shawols show you https://www.instagram.com/p/CuGsIU2p8WM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== the restaurant this but for all of his career. just a recent example. honestly that is all that is needed to me. idk why people think that there aren’t gay korean people out here living their lives because i see his friends doing just that. i find it funny when people are like convince me key is gay because you need convincing? just look at his personal life. how did i make this longer than i intended idk anyway im not here to convince anyone i just couldn’t let this turn into a superficial he covered a song with male pronouns and wore pride shoes! thing. sincerely, person who has been up kibum’s ass for over 10 years.

And my (and the internet’s) personal favorite: Also, since it looks like OP bias’s Felix here is a bonus for you:

Regarding the current discussion, I don't want to sound overly negative, but I believe many people underestimate the extent of fanservice in Kpop. Everybody knows that fans love witnessing cute interactions between members (whether they interpret them as romantic or not) and Kpop companies have always capitalized on this for their marketing strategies, sometimes even pushing specific couples (see what SM did with Yunjae for example). Idols also undergo PR training, keep tabs of what is being said about them on social media, and are fully aware of fans likes and dislikes. Most of the time what you see on camera is just what they want you to see. This is not to say “these idols are all straight guys doing fanservice!!” (I agree that there is a fair share of gay idols) or “everything you know about them is fake!!” (because nobody can fake their persona 100% of the time). But honestly, I don't think it's worth spending time analyzing all those cuddly and flirty moments between bandmates in variety shows or any official content... That being said, I have no doubt that there are male idol/male idol couples. It's just that, regardless of their sexual orientation, most celebrities are protective of their private life and relationships. I do agree with you @pyunkangyul regarding matching social media posts because obviously some celeb couples do this. Same goes for matching clothes/accessories. However, being super affectionate in front of cameras is a whole different level that not many people would be comfortable with, in my opinion. Of course, one could argue that gay couples are protected to some extent since everything they do will be labeled as fanservice or bromance, but it's still unnecessary risky? The more you act like a couple, the more attention it puts on your relationship and any potential slip-up you might have (imagining having your every interaction scrutinized by shippers...way too stressful)

so true. i remember an mc directly asking if kevin from ukiss is gay

With VIXX, it had less to do with dating rumours and more to do with people thinking their song staging was “flamboyant.” No dating rumours only added to people’s suspicion. Being from a smaller company meant MC’s were bolder in asking those questions. With the added note of a few of them being good at girl group dances that involved dressing up.

Aww Taemin's cat is so cute Thank you for the bonus, I love it

ZB1 on Jonathan’s show

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Today is Zerobaseone's debut day, but it's so nice to see Zhang Hao and Jiwoong making the Korean gays favorite males list even before debuting.

These 3: Everyone needs a Shinee slow banger in their life and this is my current favorite "New Hair, New Jeans, New Tee...": Ugh, perfect execution on every level. JYP continuing to just support NMIXX's high level talent without overshadowing them. This is my perfect Summer bop, delivered live.

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bump up business was screened in korea recently. idk when it will hit international screens but i saw a spoiler on twt so if you want to know the spoiler too, i’ll put it in the spoiler tag

There’s no defending Mark anymore. Real talk even though I’m sure a good chunk of this is fanservice I can see why a lot of fan girls go crazy for stuff like this and why companies perpetuate it. Hope as time progresses more idols will be comfortable enough to live as their true self.

its m for me atm. 7 rn, it was 8 but one just graduated from the playlist cuz it was getting 2 long

I'm so happy that they're all singing in TheKstarNextDoor

She's clearly done a lot but I want to see her without the bangs to really compare the before and the after. And speaking of Kiss Of Life members, girl...

Omg, that dog posted above is too cute. More of a co worker than a friend though.

The music video is adorable and the song is really good. I love everything and I almost hate myself for it Great execution of a cute concept..

I agree about Key being pretty obvious (the the extent that he can be) but I don't agree about the dating rumours as nearly all male idols have dating rumours with the opposite sex. I don't think that has any bearing on their sexuality because people nearly always assume someone is straight. Also, many gay people do date members of the opposite sex before realising they are gay/ to cover it up. Not to mention that genuine interest in women doesn't preclude someone from liking men too.

i wonder why the media hasn’t said anything about that because when vixx had no dating rumours, i saw an article saying people thought they’re all gay because none of them had rumours yes vanner!! i actually came to share something where vanner is on the list i tried to find the source this person got it from but idk where it is so i’ll just list out the names for those that can’t read the hangul or just don’t want to lmao kang daniel, kang minhee (cravity), GON (vanner), kim jiwoong (zb1), moonbin (astro), dongpyo (mirae), jisung (nct), jaechan (dkz), wonho, sungjae (btob), jinu (ghost9), zhang hao (zb1), jaemin (nct), wonwoo (svt), jeno (nct), joshua (svt), beomgyu (txt), intak (p1harmony) these are the idols, the rest are actors, athletes foreigners and others

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In the vast majority of cases, I think of them as gay, but that is more because gay is how I experience the world. Many of them may identify themselves as something else in the queer spectrum. I included Minsung (Former Topp Dogg) on my list, and he has characterized his own sexuality as asexual. What little study there has been asexuality has mostly found that they still lean one way or another even if only in terms of whom they find objectively more attractive, so I would assume that Minsung’s “lean” is towards men. I guess you could say that these are male idols that I’m confident “lean” towards men.

I don't t about you but Jackson is looking worse everytime a picture comes out.

v just went blonde and his nose is looking a lot different

pre-releases are boring

Sunoo on weverse today! Pretty sure he posted this the day that the pride events in Seoul are happening

It's impressive how they manage to find the same guy every time

I dont think that is what the user above tried to say. We do need to separate two conversations 1) Yes there are guys that beard ( unfortunately even in the West this is normal) 2) fans using fake PR relationship and keep bringing taennie up as evidence. One can and should discuss both topics separately and not be delusional to use the latter to make a point. All and all, both of you and I are the saying the same thing. TAENNIE IS REAL PEOPLE.